Report A Fake
The Fake flash wars are Raging. Especially on eBay!
Please report your fake flash seller to us – see below for the information we need.
We do not have all the sellers of counterfeits and false capacity usb flash drives, mp players and memory cards on file. Your contribution helps everyone. The addresses of sellers from your mailing envelopes are becoming even more important. It helps us to spot fraud rings operating on eBay. Use the search box and type in your sellers id, if there is an article make sure to leave a comment and also your progress in dealing with him. As of June 2009, SOSFakeFlash has announced a zero tolerance policy. One confirmation can lead to an alert against an eBay seller. We need to reduce the number of victims, there are too many being frauded.
Regards, From the Fake Flash Angels at SOSFakeFlash
- It is important you test your item to find it’s true capacity. Read: H2testw 1.4 – Gold Standard In Detecting USB Counterfeit Drives
- Do not assume if you have made a paypal claim and it has been closed that you can not reopen it. Many victims have been forced to do this.
- Do not leave positive feedback in exhange for a refund. You only make the problem worse. It is probably why you bought from the seller in the first place! Read: eBay Victims do not leave positive Feedback or change FB to positive to get refunds! Any seller who tries to make you do this is in violation of eBay rules.
Any company who had been involved directly or indirectly with a transaction involving fake flash – ie counterfeit fake goods is liable and responsible – if they chose not to respond to the situation or take the warnings issued by customers seriously. To ignore the issue is to condone it.
- Reminder eBay see: EBay Ordered to Pay $61 Million in Sale of Counterfeit Goods
- Reminder PayPal: Steele Settlement Website
If you have confirmed that you have a fake (purchased from eBay) and you wanted it entered into the database as evidence and so that we can post an alert we will need the following information from you:
- eBay item number
- eBay Seller id
- Your eBay Buyer id
- Your output from H2testw 1.4
- eBay item description if the listing has been removed
- Seller address (complete) if you have it. Important to build profile and track multiple id’s
- A short word of you experience and or thoughts if you like (optional)
Update 20091108: If your seller used private auction listings to hide the listing, please send a screen capture of the listing to help us cut down on the investigation time.
Send this information directly to sosfakeflashdrive@gmail.com
We will not enter information into the database from a public site without 1-4.
SOSFakeFlash is very strict about collecting information, data that can be supported and has witnesses to the fake flash deed. The alerts and posts we publish – are based on evidence. If anyone wants to dispute with us, we can send them an angry mob of fake flash victims who will support any post or alert on fake flash sellers.
So if you would like to have your item(s) recorded for the record please send us the information above to: sosfakeflashdrive@gmail.com
It is important to report even if the seller is already on the list or an alert is issued. It increases the counts and evidence against the seller. Against the fraud on eBay as well. We publish the sellers and the current counts in our eBay fake flash sellers list. We also produce statistics and reports from the information you send.
In your feedback please put the calling card of “SOSFakeFlash” and “H2testw“. It helps people to find us and get help. It also unnerves fraudsters as it means their days are now numbered.
If you left positive feedback, do a follow up to your original feedback – to let everyone know what you discovered. This makes a difference too.
If you have a little time, contact at least 5 other buyers from your fake flash seller to warn them to test. It’s a chain reaction, it helps others, reduces victims and soon brings these fraudulent sellers to the attention of both PayPal and eBay.
Reminder: If you chose not to send in your eBayer id, we will not investigate. Sellers can not be found guilty unless we have proof and a real victim. We are not interested in witch hunts, we operate on facts.
Spero Spanios said
Wow. I got burned. I purchased (4) 4GB SD cards from xiaotian_abc ( 1458) in Hong Kong for $23.72. I received the cards yesterday and put them to the test. My ancient PNY card will write a 5 MB MP3 in 3 seconds. These cards averaged 25 seconds. It sat for hours trying to write a movie file, so off to google I went. I got educated real good on this scam and I was disappointed I fell for it in the first place. You get what you pay for, huh?
Here’s the H2testw report:
Warning: Only 1882 of 4035 MByte tested.
The media is likely to be defective.
893.4 MByte OK (1829734 sectors)
988.5 MByte DATA LOST (2024602 sectors)
Details:965.7 MByte overwritten (1977916 sectors)
1 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 2 sectors)
22.7 MByte corrupted (46684 sectors)
503.6 MByte aliased memory (1031398 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×0000000000000000
Expected: 0×0000000000000000
Found: 0×0000000000000600
H2testw version 1.3
Reading speed: 706 KByte/s
H2testw v1.4
It started writing at 990 KByte/s and after 13 hours 16 minutes, it was down to writing 40 KByte/s with only 1881 MB progress. The 4 GB would literally take forever, if it were possible.
I see the aliased memory or true memory read to that point is only half a gig, so I figure the memory is only one gig total, written to show 4 gigs.
I feel like making a warning auction about fake flash cards and shaming eBay for letting me, their valued seller and buyer, get hurt by all this. Considering I browesed a lot of auctions and nothing literally told me there were fakes. I feel eBay is responsible for this after how widespread this really is.
Anyway, what should I do at this point.
Steve (my middle name)
FakeStopper said
Steve,
Is it a crime to even sell fraudulent item. It also a Shame neither ebay nor PayPal have done anything to improve the situation. Alot of items on ebay which “involves” memory cards such as USB Flash Drive, Memory Cards, MP3/MP4 players etc are in some what, been digitally altered. This means they have been altered to lie to say the memory are much higher, when in fact they are not.
If you auction is still within the 45days period, you can still file a dispute with paypal. Put that result and let the seller know you been sold a fake item.
Chris said
I bought this item 8GB USB 2.0 FLASH STICK PEN DRIVE MEMORY 8 GB UK UK33 from lianghk2007. FAKE!
This was the result:
The media is likely to be defective.
1.9 GByte OK (4023190 sectors)
5.8 GByte DATA LOST (12262506 sectors)
Details:0 KByte overwritten (0 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
5.8 GByte corrupted (12262506 sectors)
0 KByte aliased memory (0 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×000000007ac72c00
Expected: 0×000000007ac72c00
Found: 0×0000000000000000
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 4.41 MByte/s
Reading speed: 7.62 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
Tony Davis said
Where do I start. 6 fake drives and 5 not as described claims with Paypal. (1 seller refunded money after a lot of hassle)
Now at the stage where paypal are threatening to cancel the claims because I have refused to send the items back (certainly at my own expense) or get them tested by an independant tester (again at my expense). Where do I go from here ??
Details of these fakes as follows:-
Seller Item Number Claimed size Actual size using h2testw
Nicetransactions 168 140262884376 32gb 4gb
leadingstore 220274848108 16gb 4gb
supersellercn88 270270379729 8gb 4gb
yeung33759 unknown 16gb 2gb (full refund given by seller)
tcua88 unknown 8gb 2gb (seller no longer on e-bay)
zamanshop unknown 8gb 1gb (seller no longer on e-bay)
Looking through this site I am certainly not alone but where do we go if Paypal treats the seller a lot better than the purchaser. These guys are crooks and should be treated as such.
Anyway ranted on enough would appreciate advice as to where to go from here. Money is an issue but it is down to more of the whole principle of the thing now. Thanks
FakeStopper said
Hi Tony
I suggest you to email paypal about the issue. Look at the comments posted by HarryEvidence http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/3totrade-communication-with-the-don-of-fake-flash-harryevidence/#comment-62
There are email address for paypal show in this website. Tell them the test you done is an indenpendent test (i.e. H2testw).
Tony Davis said
Hi Fakestopper
Thanks for ur reply and have already done as you suggested. I sent the H2testw results to paypal and still no joy. In fact they have cancelled two of my claims today and found against me because they claim that I did not respond to there requests. I have bombarded them with e-mails but because I have refused to send the drives back and because I refused to pay for independant tests to be done they have found against me. If this is not shielding these crooks, I don’t know what is. Anyway I am not giving up and the fight continues, watch this space
Tony Davis said
Please stick with this problem and don’t give up. Give paypal as much hassle as you can.
I just got the following from paypal.
Dear tony davis,
We have concluded our investigation into your case and have decided in your
favour.
We were able to recover 22.00 GBP, and this amount has been credited to
you. Please allow five business days for this adjustment to be posted.
If you are due any additional funds, we will make our best effort to
recover the balance from the seller.
One down and 4 to go.
FakeStopper said
Hi Tony
It amazing how paypal can be classified as ‘dumb’ (lack human interaction) when dealing with disputes. I have this happening, where my case would just open and close as well and reopen again. I do suggest don’t give up, keep chasing and eventually they will refund you back.
HarryEvidence took 3 months for both cases, and I remember my took 1.5 months as well.
After my experience with PayPal I do not recommnend to anyone using PayPal, unless they improve their automated system and or have someone overseas the dispute.
Best of luck
orion said
Got proper stung. Bought a 32GB flash drive from seller whatcools… its not even 4GB!!! Paid £20 ($40) for a drive thats not even worth £5 (10) I just know what will happen as well…like any other problem ebay/paypal wont really care so will probably get either no money back or a puny amount. Keep up the good work tho
Tony Davis said
Thought you all might be interested in this string of mails between paypal and myself. They have now agreed that it is against the law to send these items back through the mail. Might be getting somewhere here:-
Dear Tony Davis,
Thank you for contacting PayPal in relation to the purchase of counterfeit
items.
Mr. Davis, if we have requested you to return counterfeit items, then this
was done in error since as you correctly point out, this would not be in
accordance with the law. Once you have provided proof of in -authenticity,
you would not be required to return the counterfeit items in order to
obtain a refund.
I understand your frustration regarding this matter and regret any
inconvenience it might have caused you.
Sincerely,
Raymond
Protection Services Department
PayPal, an eBay Company
Original Message Follows:
————————
Currently I have # claims against fraudulent sellers of fake USB sticks. I
stress that these items are fake and you cannot classify them as being
anything else. You are telling me to post them back to the seller. I must
point out that it against the law to post fake items in the UK.
Please look at all these cases on their merit. I know that I am not the
only one reporting all of these sellers, in fact more than one of them have
already been removed from E-bay.
Case numbers are:-
PP-544-744-011
PP-543-655-738
PP-543-654-327
PP-543-647-438
PP-543-597-261
I have already mailed the Hong Kong and Chinese Police about these traders
and have established that most of the return addresses that you quote to me
do not exist.
What happens here is that I spend money sending these items back to an
address that does not exist and of course they never arrive. Even if they
do arrive the seller claims that they have not.
It is about time that paypal started to protect the innocent buyer and not
support fraudsters. You only have to google this problem to realise that
it is common place and you are doing absolutely nothing to stop it.
Please pull your finger out and stop sending automated replies that do
absolutely nothing for the buyers confidence in you treating this crime
seriously.
Will keep you all updated as to anymore progress.
Keep pushing Paypal and things start to move!!!!
murray mac kinnon said
Currently I have A CLAIM AGAINST “BESTHAPPYSELLER” OUT OF MIAMI, FOR A FAKE 8GB FLASH DRIVE.
PAYPAL WANT’S ME TO RETUN THE DRIVE TO BESTHAPPYSELLER BEFORE THEY WILL REFUND ME. HE HAS AGREED TO REFUND ME $17.89 BUT IT WILL COST ME $12.89 TO SHIP IT BACK WITH A TRACKING NUMBER TO SATISFIY PAYPAL. AS OF NOW BESTHAPPYSELLER HAS NO ITEMS LISTED, YESTERDAY HE HAD LOTS OF ITEMS LISTED I SUSPECT HE HAS CHANGED ID’S AND HAS GONE ON TO DEFRAUD OTHER BUYERS. I REFUSED TO RETURN THE FLASH DRIVE. THE FIGHT CONTINUES WITH PAYPAL.IT WOULD COST $2.89 TO SHIP THIS BY REGULAR MAIL
Martin Dunn said
ebay seller “neverchargeback44″ is selling fake 16gb usb keys. Using
H2testw revealed only 1gb. Seller insists I return product for a full refund but has failed after requested to give me the address.
Ali said
I bought 12 pcs of Sony memory stick pro duo flash memory (worth $300) from ebay seller wishingdeals a month ago. They were performing badly, and i checked the internet and found an ebay guide that showed how to check if its real or fake. They turned out to be fake, but just to make sure, i took them to the Sony office and they found that they were fake and confiscated them from me, saying that it was fraud. So i emailed the seller telling him its fake and i want a refund. he replied:
”
Please return the item to the following address with RMA#wisshen0015
*********************************
WISSHEN
ZHONGHUANYUN(CAO YOU)
ROOM 305,3/F,BLOCK A
SUN FUNG CENTRE,88 KWOK SHUI RD,
KWAI CHUNG
HONGKONG
********************************
Please indicate RMA#wisshen0015 outside packing.
Note:
(1)Pls remark your request (replacement/refund) at the outside of the
package.
(2)The RMA # are only valid for thirty (30) days (postmarked by or
carrier posted by the 30th day).Packages received after 30 days will not be
accepted and will be returned to the customer.
If you require any further assistance, pls feel free to contact us.
Regards,
Will”
I said:
“I do not have the memory sticks anymore. They were transferring files very slow, and some of them were not working at all, so I took them to the Sony office to check them. They checked them and found out that they were fake. They took them from me and said that I should get a refund from the person I bought them from.”
He didnt reply for a few days so i sent another one:
“i would like my refund of $289.54 sent to my paypal, as soon as possible. like i said, the memory sticks have been confiscated for being fake. It seems that you did not know that they were fake, so i will not report you to eBay, as long as you give me a refund.
thanks for understanding.”
he said
“Dear sir,
We are sorry for that. Would you give us some evidence that they took your stick? This is our copany’s regulation, pls cooperate with us.
Thank you for your kind understanding.
Regards,
Will”
i said:
“Sorry, they did not give me anything. They said that what you did was fraud, and that i am entitled to a refund from you. I would please like my refund for the fake memory sticks.
thanks”
after that he didnt reply, so i opened a paypal dispute, and we had the same conversation, then after a few messages he didnt reply so i made it into a claim. Then paypal asked me to send the items to him. i emailed support:
“I bought a bunch of fake Sony memory sticks off of eBay and they were not performing well, so i looked online, and found a guide on eBay that helped you check if the memory stick is real or fake. From the guide, I made a conclusion that it is fake, but to make sure, i took the memory sticks to the Sony office to check what was wrong. They checked them and said that they were fake, and that I could not have them back. They said that I am entitled to a refund from the person who sold them to me.
The selling of counterfeit items is FRAUD, and it is ILLEGAL, which is completely against your policy.
I made a claim from the dispute, and now it is asking me to send the items back to the seller. I do not have the items because they were ILLEGAL and FRAUDULENTLY sold to me. I requested a refund from the seller but they would not respond.
I would like you to please help me to get a REFUND for the things i bought that were sold ILLEGALY to me.”
looking at the responses that were received by other people, i dont think that anything will happen with my case.
Please give me any advice that can help me. thanks
FakeStopper said
Hi Ali,
In your case, it will be easier to get refund especially if you have a “brand” and it indeed wasn’t sony. Alot of other flash drive are non-branded which make it harder to say it “counterfeit” – see http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/3totrade-communication-with-the-don-of-fake-flash-harryevidence/
Can I suggest you to go back to Sony shop and ask the manager who confiscated those memory stick to write a report (even write it on a letter head) and then fax this to paypal. You can also upload that as an attachment in your dispute. Let the manager know there is alot of fake happening on ebay and you would like to get your refund back and stop this. Most likely Sony will do something, because fake is fake, and fake product eat a portion of the income/share. So they will do something about this.
If you can write an email to paypal explaining your case from the beginning to complaint-response@paypal.com
If you in uk, you can try this address:
ppelce@paypal.co.uk
Visit this site for more details http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/paypal-claims-and-refunds-ebay-fake-flash/
Regards
FakeStopper
Mike said
I purchased and just received a “New 16GB USB 2.0 Flash Memory 16 G GB Pen Stick Drive i” from Ebay seller leadingstore. The drive did not hold the specified capacity, and corrupted files that were put onto it. I see that the mugshotreportebayfakeflash20081005.pdf shows this seller as having five of these same drives listed as having been investigated as fake, so I’m not the first to get a bad one from this source.
Here are the H2testw results for the drive:
The media is likely to be defective.
1.8 GByte OK (3961176 sectors)
13.9 GByte DATA LOST (29183656 sectors)
Details:0 KByte overwritten (0 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
13.9 GByte corrupted (29183656 sectors)
0 KByte aliased memory (0 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×0000000078e2b000
Expected: 0×0000000078e2b000
Found: 0×0000000000000000
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 9.13 MByte/s
Reading speed: 14.3 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
Something else that might be of interest are the results of what a software program named usbview.exe showed. Apparently the vendor and product ID numbers of the drive have been changed, so that the manufacturer is no longer shown and the product ID is incorrect. Part of that information from usbview.exe is:
Device Descriptor:
bcdUSB: 0×0200
bDeviceClass: 0×00
bDeviceSubClass: 0×00
bDeviceProtocol: 0×00
bMaxPacketSize0: 0×40 (64)
idVendor: 0×0000
idProduct: 0×7777
bcdDevice: 0×0101
iManufacturer: 0×01
iProduct: 0×02
iSerialNumber: 0×03
bNumConfigurations: 0×01
The seller claims that they’ve recieved similar complaints, and that the manufacturer of the drives said that employees mixed up the software. This seems rather unlikely, considering that not only was the drive size incorrectly configured, but that the vendor and product ID are wrong, and the drive was is also physically labeled as 16GB.
NukeTheFakes said
Fair warning – I purchased an 8 GB USB Flash drive from eBay Seller qiongzhuzhijia that turned out to be a hacked 2 GB drive. Emails sent to seller were not responded to. Contact phone number is in China. I started a dispute at PayPal and did get a quick refund, but I’ve since lodged a complaint at eBay. This eBay seller seems to sell lots of Flash drives and has mostly positive feedback. I can’t believe he’s selling mostly legitimate drives, so I think a lot of buyers are not testing their drives and are at risk of losing valuable data. I haven’t yet posted negative feedback, because I want to avoid the inevitable feedback retaliation. Hopefully this post and the lodged complaint will do the trick.
NukeTheFakes said
At least one other eBay buyer has reported getting four (4) fake drives from qiongzhuzhijia, who also seems to go by fly_sky9898. Avoid these eBay sellers.
Lyndon said
hi all
ebay seller: achete20082008
Item: 16GB USB2.0 Flash Memory Pen Stick Drive+Free ShippingB
and last the h2testw
The media is likely to be defective.
232.1 MByte OK (475518 sectors)
15.3 GByte DATA LOST (32259714 sectors)
Details:11.5 GByte overwritten (24194786 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
3.8 GByte corrupted (8064928 sectors)
1.5 KByte aliased memory (3 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×000000000e82fc00
Expected: 0×000000000e82fc00
Found: 0×000000000e8ff800
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 26.8 MByte/s
Reading speed: 23.6 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
Shaun said
hey guys,
I bought a 16GB flash disk for my girlfriend from ebayer bargain.here simply assuming USB prices had dropped significantly since my last USB purchase. i thought i was getting a bargain at $35AU total and when i received a 32GB by what i assumed was a mistake i was even more pleased. however, after experiencing some file corruption on a previously bought USB stick, my suspicions rose. i looked into it and uncovered the truth which really disappoints me – in particular the fact that ebay sits back and idly lets this all occur. i alerted my girlfriend and tested her USB. the results speak for themselves…
Warning: Only 32458 of 32484 MByte tested.
The media is likely to be defective.
3.9 GByte OK (8232190 sectors)
27.7 GByte DATA LOST (58241794 sectors)
Details:20.8 GByte overwritten (43681346 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
6.9 GByte corrupted (14560448 sectors)
1.5 KByte aliased memory (3 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×00000000fb39fc00
Expected: 0×00000000fb39fc00
Found: 0×00000000fb3ff800
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 10.1 MByte/s
Reading speed: 22.2 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
if i don’t get my full refund from him it’s going to be my mission to ruin him. i also contacted a recent purchaser from bargain.here and told him about the hacked drives. his purchase was hacked too =/
mad teacher said
File a paypal dispute immediately, if you have not done so yet. Report the seller to both the police in the seller’s country and the police in your country. Make the seller aware that you are doing so – I CC’d some of my communication with the Hong Kong police (seller’s police force) to a seller I bought from. Record the fact that you have done this in the dispute console.
Contact any other regulatory body that may be relevant such as trading standards, office of fair trading etc. Keep a record of everything and make both the seller and paypal aware that you are doing so through what you say in the dispute console.
I think I may have had the fastest refund via PayPal from an eBay fraudster on record to date by doing this.
C Gueths said
Purchased a 8 gb flash drive from Ora Waterford (ebay ora9634) out of Merrillville, IN and paid with PayPal. When it arrived, it would only hold 1 gb of data. I contacted the seller first with no response and then PayPal to submit a claim. PayPal WOULD NOT STAND BEHIND THEIR BUYER GUARANTEE. They advised that they only covered the purchase if I didn’t receive anything, in other words no shipment at all. The same day the seller contacted me and said that if I sent the drive back he would test it and replace it. I did and now he is claiming he never received it. He is a crook and knows how to get around the system.
FakeStopper said
Yes that’s the problem when ebayer return the drive back. What happen also, paypal requires the seller to confirm he/she have receive the drive from the buyer and then paypal will order the refund. However, if the seller say he/she did not receive the refund, then he is not require to refund the buyer.
What can I say about paypal…They are F**K! They advertise as something, but in reality they are the worst company ever!
RockDoctor said
Well, you guys warned me about chaiching28, presumably by spotting the end of one of his auctions, with me attached to it.
“New 16GB 16 GB USB Drive 2.0 memory stick pen drive d”
Item number: 120312787458
Paid with PayPal on 05-Oct-08.
Seller: chaiching28( 6734 Feedback score is 5,000 to 9,999)
Winning bidder: akarley4u0n( 34 Feedback score is 10 to 49)
Well, I’m running that now … 2270MB tested so far, with a decent (but not great) speed of 3.07MBytes/s … 2400 …
filling out the report form and having the feedback form set up to report the scam indicates lots of confidence, doesn’t it? It’s going to take an hour to prove the drive, at least, but only half an hour for the highest-likely real size to be hit. Speed average is dropping slightly, 3.06MBytes/s now, but that isn’t worrying yet.
Filled out the next section (5), 3672 MB tested and still at 3.06MBytes/s.
But it all goes sad in the end. Unsurprisingly.
”
The media is likely to be defective.
3.9 GByte OK (8195816 sectors)
11.7 GByte DATA LOST (24539416 sectors)
Details:0 KByte overwritten (0 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
11.7 GByte corrupted (24539416 sectors)
0 KByte aliased memory (0 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×00000000fa1dd000
Expected: 0×00000000fa1dd000
Found: 0×0000000000000000
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 6.85 MByte/s
Reading speed: 7.87 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
”
[some boilerplate]
… and lots more boilerplate text.
To be honest, I’m a little embarrassed about having not had my mental scam radar fully engaged ; I did think “That must be a tax scam”, but I didn’t know about this particular electronic fraud type. I can afford the money and the time, but I’m pissed off at myself (which is very likely to make Mr Ching and PayPal regret this. Assuming that the stick is a fake – H2testw has actually speeded up (to 4.76 MBytes/s) at the 7777MByte mark – does this indicate areas giving complete failures? Gone over the 8192 MByte mark and it’s speeding up even more.)
Well, delivery was pretty good – “Paid with PayPal on 05-Oct-08.” delivered 2008-10-22, which is 3 days into the “14-28 days for delivery” ; can’t mark the guy down for that. 10000Mbytes done and 5.47MByte/s overall speed.
The seller did have a return address label on the package, but it has been mangled in the post. Phrases include “935 Choi Ping House”, “Choi Yuen” and “Sheung Shui”.
H2testw is nearing the end of the write process … nope, just gone into verifying. Write speed 6.85MBytes/s over 15984MBytes ; read speed running about 15.0 MBytes/sec. Looks like I might have been pessimistic, but that speed up after 4MBytes is still worrying. And voila, the verify starts to fail at 3.9 GBytes. No surprises there then. So, it’s back to section 4 above, then onto a PayPal claim and a FRAUD feedback.
Shaun said
hi i posted earlier but in light of an update to this website i’d like to update my post:
1. eBay item number = 250292846434
2. eBay Seller id = bargain.here
3. Your eBay Buyer id = babolimp
4. Your output from H2testw 1.4 =
Warning: Only 32458 of 32484 MByte tested.
The media is likely to be defective.
3.9 GByte OK (8232190 sectors)
27.7 GByte DATA LOST (58241794 sectors)
Details:20.8 GByte overwritten (43681346 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
6.9 GByte corrupted (14560448 sectors)
1.5 KByte aliased memory (3 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×00000000fb39fc00
Expected: 0×00000000fb39fc00
Found: 0×00000000fb3ff800
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 10.1 MByte/s
Reading speed: 22.2 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
5. eBay item description if the listing has been removed = link still active
6. A short word of you experience and or thoughts if you like (optional) = bargain.here tried to make me remove my neg feedback in exchange for a refund. he also continues to try cover his tracks whenever he receives a neg feedback with a ton of faked auctions (you can tell because they are private whereas his other sales are public, and the positive feedback is all written in a very similar writing style). this guy deserves to be taken down.
Sell Leads said
1. eBay item number = 220294506117
2. eBay Seller id = mdongdisk119
3. Your eBay Buyer id = kaylyn10
mdongdisk119 – Caught selling fake 16gb flashdrives
Purchased a 16GB drive, at best it is a 2GB
Here is the auction: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=220294506117
Here is the test
The media is likely to be defective.
1.9 GByte OK (4064894 sectors)
13.6 GByte DATA LOST (28678530 sectors)
Details:10.2 GByte overwritten (21508898 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
3.4 GByte corrupted (7169632 sectors)
1.5 KByte aliased memory (3 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×000000007c0cfc00
Expected: 0×000000007c0cfc00
Found: 0×000000007c0ff000
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 12.9 MByte/s
Reading speed: 18.0 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
David said
Seller = xiaotian_abc
Auction = http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=200261670318
1Gb flash drive masquerading as 8Gb.
The media is likely to be defective.
988.1 MByte OK (2023808 sectors)
6.6 GByte DATA LOST (14018176 sectors)
Details:5.0 GByte overwritten (10512864 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
1.6 GByte corrupted (3505312 sectors)
1.5 KByte aliased memory (3 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×00000000131bf000
Expected: 0×00000000131bf000
Found: 0×0000000000000000
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 9.42 MByte/s
Reading speed: 15.9 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
It’s easy to open and close this pen drive.
Written on the controller chip: MW6208E
Chip Genius v2.64 identifies the controller as MTX….
The memory chip had a sticker on and was blank underneath.
I fixed mine successfully using UdTools1.0.4.0B_20080714
The seller solicits positive feedback in exchange for a full refund plus I get to keep the drive! The cheek!
The sellers feedback profile shows at least one buyer leaving positive feedback for being refunded on a fake. Do not do this. It only helps them to scam other people.
I opened a Paypal dispute and escalated to a claim immediately, because the sale was a deliberate fraud. I recieved my refund the next day.
The seller continues to do a roaring trade.
Dennis said
1. eBay item number: 200261654928
2. eBay Seller id: xiaotian_abc
3. Your eBay Buyer id: badea_jenel
4. Your output from H2testw 1.4: Sorry, I had already reformatted the fake 8 Gb USB Drive to its original 1Gb (with the substraction of some bad area) size before I discovered this website and H2testw 1.4. Can only say that the utility reported no problem at the reformatted drive.
5. eBay item description:
—- BEGINNING OF THE FRAGMENT ————-
8GB USB 2.0 FLASH DRIVE MEMORY STICK PEN NEW
Description :
Large Storage Capacity
1.Capacity : 8GB
2.Compatible with USB specification version 1.0 & 2.0
3.Hot Plug & Play
4.Works with Windows 98, 98SE, 2000, ME, XP, Vista, Linux, Mac 9 and above
5.Power by USB Bus (4.5V – 5.5V) (no External power required)
6.Durable Solid-State Storage
7.Compact, lightweight, and very portable
8.Data Retention for more than 10 years
9.Erase cycles: 10,000,000 times + Super slim design – 65mm x 20mm x 8mm
10.Read/Write: 7mbps
—— END OF THE FRAGMENT ———–
6. It is the first time I face such a problem with a USB Flash Drive and I’m proud of myself I resolved it. Here I describe how:
a) When I have received the drive I noticed that there is an abnormal speed of read/write beyond the 1Gb level – nearly 25-30 MB/sec no matter the block size was. I didn’t suspect anything bad – I was so pleased with the results I saw.
b) But: when the next day at work I showed my teammates the USB Drive, one of them said – hey, let you test the files you copied to. I did and could not open the files. I disconnected the drive from the USB slot and when I connected it again – WinXP said it’s not formatted – and it couldn’t be formatted. So I went on the search for an utility to format the drive correctly, but the problem was it wasn’t a label showing manufacturer and model – so I found a flash identification utility – it said me it cannot determine the controller and memory unit – only VID=2001 and PID=2008.
c) Therefore I have opened the case (removed the plastic protection bars) and faced a controller MW6208E and nonamed memory unit on the other part of the plate.
d) I googled for “MW6208E” and found A LOT of Chinese resources, of course this was unreadable to me. But there was a link to some blog of some English-speaking college student (maybe American). I visited his blog and understood that the USB Drive I bought was a fake. But still couldn’t get the memory unit name for my drive – but I found the name of formatting utility: UDTools 1.0.4 http://www.bloggybloggy.com/randomdownloads/UdTools1.0.4.0B_20080714.zip
After I ran the utility it showed me the memory unit name: TC58NVG3D4CTGI0 (Toshiba MLC) so I formatted the drive to its original capacity of 1 Gb, actually there were some bad sectors so I got 946 MB of available space – I tested it and found no problem.
e) I looked at the seller’s feedback and found some negative and the name of an utility “H2testw”. I googled for it and went on this website. I have read many useful articles and other stuff, thanks a lot. Especially, I found that the seller is well-known for fakes and frauds. Then, I composed the following message to seller (from EBay):
—– BEGIN OF MY MESSAGE ———
Dear xiaotian_abc,
You are the eBay seller of Counterfeit Flash Devices!
I will do claims on you on eBay, PayPal and Hong Kong POLICE because you sell fake USB Flash Drives – I discovered that you cheated me on Flash Drive I bought 8Gb eBay Item #200261654928
I found an interesting website: http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/alert-xiaotian_abc-ebay-fake-flash-seller/ check it out – do you recognize yourself?
I am proud of me – because I succeed in restoring working mode for this FAKE USB Drive – at least I have 1 Gb, sure!
And you are a SCAM, and, besides of me, many people can prove it. So beware – I now know what to do!
- badea_jenel
—– END OF MY MESSAGE ———–
the seller responded with 2 messages
——– BEGIN OF SELLER MESSAGES ——-
Dear badea_jenel,
Hello, thanks your opinion, I must tell you , because the low in price, the commercial quality cannot obtain the very good guarantee, has some operational failure is possible, perhaps 5% buyer will appear is unable to use will be the question, we in the positive solution, have hoped you can understand
- xiaotian_abc
and later,
Hello, you can choose to format it by computer,
if formatting is no use,
you can choose exchange goods or refund money,
If your item need exchange or refund money,
please send the item back as this address:
TO:
Mr: Auca
FT 807 8/F YUEN FAT IND BLDG
25 WANG CHIU ROAD
KOWLOON BAY KOWLOON
Hong Kong
香港中文地址：
香港九龙湾宏照道25号源发工业大厦807室
important: write your ebay ID on the package ,thanks
You can exchange or refund money, thanks！
Wait for your reply.
- xiaotian_abc
so he did a quick refund to me.
——— END OF SELLER MESSAGES ——–
I have opened a dispute on Paypal reporting that I receive fake item (“imitation” checkbox) with the message above. I was very surprised that several minutes after I got a message: “the seller has refund you..”. I was so pleased and proud of myself – it was the perfect finish for a working day.
So, people, in general:
I. My FAKE 8GB USB Drive is actually 1GB in capacity with a MW6208E controller and Toshiba TC58NVG3D4CTGI0 memory unit.
II. You can fix your drive with an utility http://www.bloggybloggy.com/randomdownloads/UdTools1.0.4.0B_20080714.zip
just click on the button with your drive disk name (ex. “X:”)
III. The seller is, in my opinion afraid of HK Police
IV. Thanks people for this website – I was pleased and proud of you, you do the right thing, thanks again!
Dennis. 06/11/2008
Benyo said
1. eBay item number: 250312950226
2. eBay Seller id: fukkee
3. Your eBay Buyer id: fire_phoenix77
4. Your output from H2testw 1.4:
The media is likely to be defective.
1.9 GByte OK (4095904 sectors)
13.7 GByte DATA LOST (28735584 sectors)
Details:10.2 GByte overwritten (21551688 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
3.4 GByte corrupted (7183896 sectors)
1.5 KByte aliased memory (3 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×000000001d040000
Expected: 0×000000001d040000
Found: 0×00000000aa55aa55
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 9.41 MByte/s
Reading speed: 15.3 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
5. eBay item description:
16GB Flash Memory Stick USB 2.0 Key Pen Drive 16 G GO 2
Well there it is, another sorry excuse for a seller. I have lodged a claim with paypal as per the advice of people on this site. I thank those who went to the effort for a site like this one. Any tips or tricks to get the money back for this thing would be appreciated.
mtsandeep said
1. eBay item number: 220295514815
2. eBay Seller id: diaoweifeng2008
3. Your eBay Buyer id: mtsandeep
4. Your output from H2testw 1.4:
The media is likely to be defective.
1.9 GByte OK (4098304 sectors)
5.8 GByte DATA LOST (12252928 sectors)
Details:4.3 GByte overwritten (9189696 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
1.4 GByte corrupted (3063232 sectors)
1.5 KByte aliased memory (3 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×000000007d120000
Expected: 0×000000007d120000
Found: 0×00000000aa55aa55
H2testw version 1.3
Reading speed: 11.8 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
********************************************************
The seller doesn’t exist now. I bought this flash drive from hongkong seller. he claimed it to be 8 gb but actually it was only 1.9gb.
Dennis said
To mtsandeep:
Listing 220295514815 was removed from eBay, but this is how you must do:
Arise a claim directly on PayPal – tell that seller has cheated you and now you cannot contact him because he has de-registered from eBay and you have proved the item he sold was counterfeit.
Try also to do a chargeback.
Dennis said
To Benyo:
Maybe you can do a chargeback?
kittyfireflash said
Info will be sent to mtsandeep and Benyo shortly.
mtsandeep has undercovered a shocking can of fake flash worms! We are dredging up the full specs on what was sold as I type. Expect a report soon….
Nitin Shah said
I recently purchased a 16GBusb pendrive from qiongzhuzhijia. After ordering pendrive i came to know about some seller in china/Hong Kong how they make fool people on ebay. When i received the pen drive i tested with H2testw and found that pen drive is fake. I complained to qiongzhuzhijia. He offered 50% refund if i keep the drive and 100% if i send the drive back. To send the fake drive in mail is illegal. I complaint ebay about the fake pen drive and qiongzhuzhijia is now delisted from ebay. I claim paypal about the refund of money and paypal told me to send the fake pen drive back to seller.
Question 1: What should i do in this situation to get full refund.
Question 2: How to contact PayPal to explain the case (sending back fake item by mail is illegal) because i could not find any email address to contact PayPal.
Question 3: I dont have qiongzhuzhijia’s address where i have to send back pen drive( In Paypal’s email address mentioned is in chinease language). I wrote qiongzhuzhijia 5days before as well as ebay to give me address to return pen drive. no reply from them yet. Any email i am sending to qiongzhuzhijia he is not responding, what should i do?
Question 4: How to restore 16GB pen drive from qiongzhuzhijia to its original 4GB capacity.
Zack said
User sincerefriend200888 sold me counterfeit flash drive allegedly 16gb but it was mere 2gb with lots of errors, obviously a case of hacking-the-cheap-flash and selling for profit, so this web site helped me a lot.
I’ve prepared and sent a rigorous complaint FIRST via PayPal and then emailed the user kindly inviting him to to fully and unconditionally refund the entire sum I have paid or Hond Kong and local authorities would be alerted.
Less than 20 minutes later I was fully refunded with tons of apologies.
Sneaky bastards, you need to play hard ball with them!
kittyfireflash said
Horray! Zak.
Yes many sellers understand the law. Prison in the Orient is not “Club Med”. It can be extremely harsh. Horrible.
Your seller is a new one Zak Please report in at sosfakeflashdrive@gmail.com with your ebay item number and ebayer id. We would like to research this seller, the score is small. It is possible that this seller switched lines. We see that a number of 16GB have been sold and their are private auctions we will have to dig up the descriptions on what those were for. Not sure if it is usb flash drives, if so, the seller is no victim of product line switch.
We would like to investigate so report in. There are a lot of people who bought flash drives from this seller.
Paul said
another couple of sellers to add to list:
Marginprice – Chan Kong Ping
mikechanweb – Chan Chu Man
Joe London said
eBay item number: 220297424611
eBay Seller id: memory_world1
My eBay Buyer id: Vladkarp30
Proof:
The media is likely to be defective.
984.1 MByte OK (2015488 sectors)
14.6 GByte DATA LOST (30643968 sectors)
Details:6.8 GByte overwritten (14287776 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
7.7 GByte corrupted (16356192 sectors)
1.5 KByte aliased memory (3 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×000000003d820000
Expected: 0×000000003d820000
Found: 0×00000000aa55aa55
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 12.9 MByte/s
Reading speed: 16.3 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
Item description: 16GB USB 2.0 PEN THUMB DRIVE FLASH MEMORY 16 GB
Bought a 16Gb flash dirve for 26 dollars, later found out it has hacked memory, i am the the process of processing a claim on paypal.
Please Add the seller to your list.
MB said
Recently I received two 8GB PNY USB flash drives that were fake and both were purchased from Wal-mart. (Actual capacity was 4GB.) (These were the ones on Sale after Thanksgiving for $17)
I was able to return them for a full refund, but it shows that even “reputable” sellers have fakes.
FakeStopper said
It good you return it to wal-mart. Sometime reputable sellers aren’t aware the drive are fake. They purchase it from a manufacturer who is the one to be blame! Maybe you should make sure Wal-mart does not continue to sell the fake usb drive.
mad teacher said
This may not be the best place to post this but today a “new” Chinese Seller of 16GB flash drives appeared with at least 48 identical listings starting with (I think) Item number: 270313386508 which ended on 08-Dec-08 15:42:05 GMT ending with Item number: 270314662194 on 11-Dec-08 05:08:06 GMT. Bidder ID’s are being kept private. Looks like a hit and run. In answer to this question:
Dear qingchushangwangjilu,
There seem to be a lot of Flash drives which have less capacity than stated. Can you gaurentee that your drives will store over 15GB of files without file loss or corruption? Have they been tested to ensure this?
The answer was this:
dear xxxxxx
i think this usb driver is not suitable to you.sorry
Bidders ID’s kept private? A lot of listings, none of which are over 3 days and an answer like that? Speaks for itself, I think. All listings have been logged and 3 reports filed with Ebay. Maybe this one can be stopped before he gets established.
HarvestingFakes said
http://www.netikka.net/ffdg/faulty16_32
H2testw reported some non-faulty memory in the beginning and in the end of this flash drive. I felt I had to took it apart and see whats inside
A 32GB flash chip! (one that didnt quite make it to the flames of furnace).
HarvestingFakes said
http://www.netikka.net/ffdg/faulty16_32
Seems that I have misinterpreted the data sheet of the flash chip. Density of this chip 32Gb (32Gigabit). Each byte consists of 8 bits. So density of this chip in bytes is 32Gigabit / 8 = 4Gigabybytes.
redkinguk said
eBay item number: 220332305154
eBay Seller id: wusimz
My eBay Buyer id: redkinguk
TEST 30/12/2008
The media is likely to be defective.
1.9 GByte OK (4081600 sectors)
14.0 GByte DATA LOST (29454400 sectors)
Details:0 KByte overwritten (0 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
14.0 GByte corrupted (29454400 sectors)
0 KByte aliased memory (0 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×000000007c8f8000
Expected: 0×000000007c8f8000
Found: 0×0000000000000000
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 16.9 MByte/s
Reading speed: 10.5 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
Item Description: BRAND NEW 16GB USB 2.0 FLASH STICK PEN DRIVE MEMORY W22
Take care
Lewis
kittyfireflash said
Thank you for reporting in Lewis. wusimz is a seller not yet on file.
This seller based in China has sold four models, 3 in 16GB, and 1 in 2GB. 2GB is the capacity your tests are reporting.
wusimz made his debut on Nov-14-08 in China. Possibly a fake flash seller trying to crawl back into eBay under a new incarnation – they do try. Currenlty not listing anything for sale, the only thing sold was flash drives.
His sales:
Items Sold: 86.22%
Total Value Sold: £3343.03
Total Value Shipping: £0.00
Total Value Not Sold: £79.17
Sold Item Fees: £138.90
Unsold Item Fees: £22.20
463 flash drives were sold. No Negative feedback exists yet, important if you can leave negative to warn people quickly while is FB score is still low. Possible he is only taking a break for the holidays and to see the results before starting another round of selling – if the coast is clear. They do that a lot now, hit and wait – run if hot to a new id.
16GB is the preferred fake to sell. 32GB too visible to eBay, 8GB too low to make any money. What we are selling is they are returning to the lower true capacity flash (512MB to 2GB) for reprogramming. The 4GB to high in cost and the 8GB to reprogramme would leave no margin of profit.
redkinguk said
Feedback left.
Paypal dispute oppened.
Seller still got items listed.
http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZwusimz
Hope it helps stop others being scammed and more Important makes members aware of the risk of backup failure/Data lost on these drives.
Take care
redkinguk said
Positive result.
Dear Lewis *******,
We have concluded our investigation into your Buyer Claim.
Seller’s name: wu shiyu
Seller’s email: wusimz8 at gmail.com
Seller’s transaction ID: 6R2074947E398240W
Transaction date: 20 Dec 2008
Transaction amount: -5.50 GBP
Your transaction ID: 5J739127DT8672157
Case number: PP-609-553-546
You have received a refund via PayPal in the amount of 5.50 GBP.
I would have prefered the working 16 Gbyte drive but it’s always the case something looks 2 good 2 be true 99% of the time it is.
If I can find instructions now to update firmware to fix this drive I will give to charity shop. Or sell on Ebay and donate funds to charity.
VID=058f
PID=6387
Easy to follow guide would be appreciated.
Take care
Lewis
fightflashfraud said
Dear Mad Teacher,
You will be pleased to know that qingchushangwangjilu is now deregistered and listings for his drive have been removed. For anyone else who bought from this seller who only sold one model of drive – test your drives with h2testw and claim a refund from paypal immediately using your test results as evidence. You need to act quickly as time is running out see http://fakeflashnews.wordpress.com/category/counterfeit-flash-drives for a picture of the drive sold by this fraudster.
zahid said
seller has listed them as private so is 100% guilty
Seller: lozzy_17( 8 )
USB 2.0 upgrade 500GB Flash Memory Drive
Item number: 260343016192
USB 2.0 upgrade 360GB Flash Memory Drive
Item number: 260343019545
USB 2.0 120GB upgrade Flash Memory Drive
Item number: 260343021770
USB 2.0 Brand New 64GB Flash Memory Drive
Item number: 260341270021
USB 2.0 Brand New 32GB Flash Memory Drive
Item number: 260343072543
FakeStopper said
To Zahid:
This seller is very doggy, you will notice he put the word “upgrade”. This technically is the same meaning as “digitally alter”. However, with his 64GB and 32GB, he didn’t mention the word “upgrade” hence he is easier to be caught selling fake.
So be careful everyone. Make sure you do not bid until you can get a full testing result from the seller showing it ok.
Gary Saxon said
516erenkoy01 is an Ebay seller that is selling hacked flash drives as 16 gb. I bought one and using Flash Drive Tester V1.12 and Chkflsh showed that it was only a 4 gb flash drive. His return address on the envelope is:
Nilufer Unzun
2320 Hempstead Turnpike
East Meadow, NY 11554-0000
That address is near Nassau University Medical Center. He appears to be laying low at the moment but he will probably resurface.
fraser said
i got 3 16 gb flash drives, from 2 seperate sellers, all fakes.
1 from wusims
2 from powerrangolee.
the guy powerangolee was warned when i paid, that i would test them, and stil sent fakes.
now he wants me to pay to send em to hongkong, and if they go missing, im still to pay??
ebay has instructed me to destroy them,he did not like this.
shai said
eBay item number:280297804980
eBay Seller id: zhujunpeibay ( 1024)
Your eBay Buyer id:bottenbay
16GB Flash Drive Memory Pen Stick THUMB usb 2.0 16G PI
I have been test the item
The drive did not hold the specified capacity, and corrupted files that were put onto it.
Here are the H2testw results for the drive:
The media is likely to be defective.
1.9 GByte OK (4061695 sectors)
13.6 GByte DATA LOST (28673537 sectors)
Details:10.2 GByte overwritten (21505153 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
3.4 GByte corrupted (7168384 sectors)
1.5 KByte aliased memory (3 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×000000007bf3fe00
Expected: 0×000000007bf3fe00
Found: 0×000000007bfff000
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 11.9 MByte/s
Reading speed: 16.8 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
ubware said
this guy ripped me off
Seller: disubs ( 16236) Not a registered user Contact seller
Paid on 07-Jan-09 via PayPal
16GB USB 2.0 FLASH DRIVE MEMORY PEN STICK 16 8 GB G GO
370140288112 – Price: AU $30.00
Quantity:1 Other: FREE AU $30.00 View PayPal transactionView PayPal transaction
his email di.subs@gmail.com
Warning: Only 16183 of 16184 MByte tested.
The media is likely to be defective.
1.9 GByte OK (4077552 sectors)
13.8 GByte DATA LOST (29065232 sectors)
Details:0 KByte overwritten (0 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
13.8 GByte corrupted (29065232 sectors)
0 KByte aliased memory (0 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×000000007c6fe000
Expected: 0×000000007c6fe000
Found: 0×0000000000000000
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 13.9 MByte/s
Reading speed: 12.4 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
Pedro the One said
And me, too…..
Sent this off today :
Att. Chan Lai Man : SELLER
On 12 December 2008 I purchased this item (16 Gb USB Flash Drive) from you for AUD $20.50, paying through PAYPAL.
Item # Item Title Qty Price Subtotal
370127911563 16GB USB 2.0 DRIVE FLASH MEMORY PEN STICK 16 8 GB G GO 1 $20.50 AUD $20.50 AUD
Postage & Packing via Other
(includes any seller packing fees): —
Postal Compensation : —
Total: $20.50 AUD
I have yesterday attempted to use this unit and it has proven FAULTY. It will not even load into my PC.
I have tested the USB port in my PC with another unit and it works perfectly.
I have taken it to my local Computor Shop Technical Dept. and was advised that “the unit could not be loaded, or even opened.”
They have also confirmed that this unit has been “HACKED” and the Flash Drive description is obviously FRAUDULENT,
in that is is not what it was represented as,: ie 16GB USB 2.0 DRIVE FLASH MEMORY PEN STICK 16 8 GB G GO
In view of the prevalent ILLEGAL activities now occurring on eBay with these products I therefore request an immediate
FULL REFUND of my payment to you, on the grounds of FRAUDULENT MIS-REPRESENTATION .
This payment should be made directly to PAYPAL, (where it was made from) who will advise me on receipt.
The item is still in my possession as I am advised by the Police and the PostMaster that
” as it is a fraudulent item, it is just as ILLEGAL for me to post the item also.”
Please therefore advise me of your required disposal action .
Subject to the refund not being made I will be filing a claim on eBay/PayPal on this matter.
I will be also filing a FRAUD Complaint with both your local Police and the Australian Federal Police if my money is not promptly refunded.
Please respond immediately with your reply so that this matter can be resolved.
Signed by BUYER : Pedro_the_One
Pedro the One said
Sorry all ….. forgot the most vital part …….
Seller: disubs ( 16236) Not a registered user Contact seller ………..
elias said
Warning: Only 31754 of 31984 MByte tested.
The media is likely to be defective.
1.7 GByte OK (3572280 sectors)
29.3 GByte DATA LOST (61459912 sectors)
Details:21.9 GByte overwritten (46086568 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
7.3 GByte corrupted (15373344 sectors)
10.3 MByte aliased memory (21162 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×000000000000d4f8
Expected: 0×466d4d325ee15d21
Found: 0xf0f0f0f0f0f0f0f0
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 16.7 MByte/s
Reading speed: 17.9 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
# eBay item number : 130288268300
# eBay Seller id : arifqammar
# Your eBay Buyer id : kalafalas
Stas Fomin said
“Shenzhen Topkeen”
They faked no only 16GB flashes, but even 2GB and 4GB flashes:
http://www.slideshare.net/belonesox/fake-flashes-from-topkeen-presentation
Stas Fomin said
Damned “Shenzhen Topkeen”!
They faked no only 16GB flashes, but even 2GB and 4GB flashes
fightflashfraud said
I think a lot of people will find your slideshow rather interesting, I certainly did!
Stas Fomin said
>I think a lot of people will find your slideshow rather interesting, I certainly did!
I plan add to the slideshow some instructions how to “repaire” such flashes (make from faked 4GB
true 1 or 2GB).
You can also laugh at me here (a couple small video)
http://simply-a-man.livejournal.com/123009.html
fightflashfraud said
I like your style, Stas Fomin!
matthew steele said
seller hellopetpet 32gb transcend
heres test results
Warning: Only 32483 of 32484 MByte tested.
The media is likely to be defective.
3.4 GByte OK (7229787 sectors)
28.2 GByte DATA LOST (59295397 sectors)
Details:21.2 GByte overwritten (44471520 sectors)
2 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 4 sectors)
7.0 GByte corrupted (14823873 sectors)
1.5 KByte aliased memory (3 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×00000000249bf000
Expected: 0×00000000249bf000
Found: 0×0000000024982000
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 10.0 MByte/s
Reading speed: 12.1 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
Nige said
Ebay seller ads0s0. 64GB USB FLASH KEY PEN DISK DRIVE STICK
Purchased in December, but only just found this site. Thanks for the information.
ads0s0 did not answer my emails. He is not selling anything at the time of writing.
The test fails very early on, so this test was only done on the first 1K and it still fails.
Warning: Only 1000 of 65519 MByte tested.
The media is likely to be defective.
233.5 MByte OK (478336 sectors)
766.4 MByte DATA LOST (1569664 sectors)
Details:574.8 MByte overwritten (1177248 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
191.6 MByte corrupted (392416 sectors)
1.5 KByte aliased memory (3 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×000000000e990000
Expected: 0×000000000e990000
Found: 0×00000000aa55aa55
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 10.5 MByte/s
Reading speed: 11.6 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
kittyfireflash said
Nige
It’s good to hear from you. We can’t get to all the victims on eBay and you don’t know just how frustrating that is. They limit to 5 messages a day for a member and when the id’s are hidden or the ebay item numbers because of private auctions as ads0s0 did, it makes it worse.
So we issue alerts on the sellers and they stay on the internet like beacons – for victims to find. Just one investigated fake with evidence (all the info matching that we ask for) and we will issue an alert now. We won’t wait for the evidence to pile up. After 10 months, we have not been wrong – once.
Your data indicates you have a tiny drive – 256MB that is trying to be a super big fake of 64GB. This seller clearly said in his listing it was not a reprogrammed drive. Report him to ebay and paypal. Check your paypal to see if you can bring up the listing details, if not use the info from the site that we have preserved.
Nazzeth said
ljtcfk – I’ve bought over 30 16GB USB Drives of this ebayer with the intention of reselling locally.
So far 6 have arrived and all are 2GB Sticks. I’ve opened them up, they’ve even got Samsungs Stamp on the memory module and the Part number for a 16Gbit (Not Byte) Samsung Memory chip.
H2testw shows:
The media is likely to be defective.
1.9 GByte OK (4100433 sectors)
13.8 GByte DATA LOST (28991151 sectors)
Details:13.8 GByte overwritten (28991151 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
0 KByte corrupted (0 sectors)
4 KByte aliased memory (8 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×000000007d22a200
Expected: 0×000000007d22a200
Found: 0×000000007d22a000
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 14.7 MByte/s
Reading speed: 18.9 MByte/s
kittyfireflash said
To Nazzeth
You bought the most classic fake of all. I have one sitting on my desk – it is the size you are reporting and it had an icreate chip controller. I managed to rehabilitate the three I have and they work fine as 1.9 GB formatted.
Did you use a credit card to pay for them on ebay? You may have problems with paypal and they might try to force you to return them. If you paid by credit card you should contact them immediately to have a reversal done on payments. see:
http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/buying-on-ebay-mp-players-memory-cards-usb-flash-drives-why-you-should-use-a-credit-card-to-pay-and-not-your-bank-account/
there are a lot of other people who bought from this seller. FB is coming in and unfortunately it is positive. The buyers need to be warned! They need to test and do follow up feedback QUICKLY! Before more people fall into the fake flash pit. I bought the model you bought, exactly 1 year ago. Only mine was reprogrammed to be 8GB. They can make any size they like!
People warn the other buyers!
Everyone please help out here with ebay seller ljtcfk We need help! Struggling with a back log of alerts to get out.
If you had spend 1 year fighting this issue – you would understand. The old crew is exhausted. We need the community to step up to the plate to help out…
One of the sites has published an article that really need to get noticed on the internet. We are now including it with all new alerts – it is that important. The facts on prices please see:
http://flashdrivefacts.wordpress.com/2009/03/21/usb-flash-drives-best-price-bargains-fair-value-to-sell-or-buy-8gb-16gb-32gb/
That information is important! It needs to be posted on any and every site you can find. The only way to stop this plague of fake flash is to get the truth out to everyone.
If people don’t have access to the facts and become aware, this problem will just continue for EVER! Too many people have not only lost money, but data. That data loss is costing companies hugh amounts of money as everyone tries to save in these difficult times. A lot of information has been lost and some companies are near ruin because they bought in good faith on eBay!
Help contact buyers of ljtcfk!
We are researching this seller right now and it looks very bad.
We see all the signs of an older seller resurfacing under another id.
Nazzeth do you have the address on the envelope for the seller? So we can check the database?
Dave said
Ebay motors VPP is just as bad when you get scammed on a auto purchase.You got to watch how they play on words and ebays sellers are full of scammers in fraud,if the cant police there own site the us government should.
Alex said
No need for me to buy one of these… just see the listings…
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130297192517
http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZmoneyworx11QQhtZ-1
Alex said
this seller sells fakes, but refund very fast
http://myworld.ebay.com/zgpzqxd/
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260375010872
this seller sells fakes, and i still can’t get my money back
http://myworld.ebay.com/lovelymp4shop168/
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=250391778115
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=260378779836
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=250391163332
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=260378275969
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=250391163370
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=260378779091
all items are 2GB fakes!!!
Liam Mc Conkey said
Hello
I too have fallen victim to a seller , dhwangyang , on website DGHate selling allegedly authentic 64 gb Kingston flash drives which , when tested proved to be corrupt 2 gig flash drives. They are basic fraud! Can anything be done about this situation? Should I inform the REAL Kingston website and alert them to this FRAUDULENT offer as it is tarnishing their good name.
Andrey said
1. eBay item number: 260380272399
2. eBay Seller id: shall0906
3. Your eBay Buyer id: atar-avt
Fake flash seller! Real capacity of received SDHC card in 4 (!) times smaller than claimed. 2Gb instead of 8Gb.
Seller address:
WD(s8/1)
Air mail Department. AUCA
Room 225-226, Block B, Focal Industrial Centre, 21 Man Lok Street, Hung Hom, Kowloon, Hong Kong
Output from H2testw 1.4 :
The media is likely to be defective.
1.9 GByte OK (3997112 sectors)
5.9 GByte DATA LOST (12532296 sectors)
Details:0 KByte overwritten (0 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
5.9 GByte corrupted (12532296 sectors)
0 KByte aliased memory (0 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×0000000079fb7000
Expected: 0×0000000079fb7000
Found: 0xffffffffffffffff
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 1.69 MByte/s
Reading speed: 7.75 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
kittyfireflash said
Please inform Kingston. Sites like DGHate are the sources for counterfeits that then get resold on ebay and in small retail stores.
steve said
SupersellerCN88 on eBay is notorious Lisa Zhong
supersellercn@gmail.com
Zhong LiSa(SS)
32B,XiaoFeng Building ,
29# YouYi Road,Luohu District,
Shenzhen,518001GBWE
GuangDong Province
China
sold me 16GB USB drive which failed at 8GB point on test program. I sent back the drive but they have not refunded my money.
BEWARE!
Several bad feedback on eBay but superseller so eBay will do nothing.
kittyfireflash said
Thank’s Steve!
Well now we have the 9th id for the Don Of Fake Flash. See
http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/takeme2home-ebay-fake-flash-seller-high-alert-hong-kong-another-ebay-seller-id-of-the-don-of-fake-flash-in-the-orient/
One of the biggest problems is that sending address is not the return address for refunds. JUST How many id’s does he operate?
perdigon said
Hello:
Have a look here:
PEN DRIVE KINGSTON 240 GB
http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170320021386
and here:
PEN DRIVE EMTEC 64 GB
http://cgi.ebay.es/Emtec-pendrive-usb-64-GB-memoria-64-Gigas-pen-drive_W0QQitemZ220394071083QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_186?hash=item220394071083&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1315%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
The first is obviously fake. Have idea about the second one?
It says “Model C200″, but I can’t find in EMTEC site. The only one with 64Gb I see is this:
http://www.emtec-international.com/en/produit.php?categorie=STMOB&gamme=CLES USB&ss_gamme=S400 EM