Report A Fake 2008-2010 (April)
The Fake flash memory wars are raging. Especially on eBay!
Please report your fake flash memory seller to us – see below for the information we need. We do not have all sellers of counterfeit and false capacity usb flash drives, mpx players and memory cards on file. Your contribution helps everyone.
Addresses of sellers from your mailing envelopes are very helpful. It helps us to spot fraud rings operating on eBay. Use the search box and type in your sellers id, if there is an article make sure to leave a comment and also your progress in dealing with him.
As of June 2009, SOSFakeFlash announced a zero tolerance policy. One confirmation can lead to an alert against an eBay seller. We need to reduce the number of victims, too many being frauded. Regards, From the Fake Flash Angels at SOSFakeFlash
- It is important you test your item to find it’s true capacity. Read: H2testw 1.4 – Gold Standard In Detecting USB Counterfeit Drives
- Do not assume if you have made a paypal claim and it has been closed that you can not reopen it. Many victims have been forced to do this.
- Do not leave positive feedback in exhange for a refund. You only make the problem worse. It is probably why you bought from the seller in the first place! Read: eBay Victims do not leave positive Feedback or change FB to positive to get refunds! Any seller who tries to make you do this is in violation of eBay rules.
Any company who had been involved directly or indirectly with a transaction involving fake flash memory items is liable and responsible – if they chose not to respond to the situation or take the warnings issued by customers seriously. To ignore the issue is to condone it.
- Reminder eBay see: EBay Ordered to Pay $61 Million in Sale of Counterfeit Goods
- Reminder PayPal: Steele Settlement Website
If you have confirmed that you have a fake (purchased from eBay) and you wanted it entered into the database as evidence so we can post an alert or update counts against a seller we will need the following information from you:
- eBay item number
- eBay Seller id
- Your eBay Buyer id (d0n’t forget this please)
- Your output from H2testw 1.4
- eBay item description title
- Seller address complete if you have it (mailing envelopes, eBay, PayPal). Important to build profile and track multiple id’s
- Seller email address
- A short word of you experience and or thoughts if you like (optional)
Reminder, your eBay Buyer id is NOT published on the internet when you report in to us. eBay fake flash memory seller ids are published on the internet to warn other buyers.
If your seller used private auction listings to hide the listing, or a multiple item buy now listing please send a screen capture of the listing to help us cut down on the investigation time.
To capture your buy now listing is very important if the seller is not on file with us (eBay Fake Memory Seller Lists) , if the seller is suspended you will lose your evidence and so could we.
Send this information directly to sosfakeflashdrive@gmail.com
We will not enter information into the database from a public site without 1-4.
If you are reporting several sellers (it happens) please keep the 1-8 pattern. Easy to understand, the more you save us time the faster we can investigate and enter.
There is no time limit in reporting a seller, you can find a lot of information inside of your paypal account for proof. We have had cases as old as 18 months from purchase being reported. It is why recording in a database is so important.
SOSFakeFlash is very strict about collecting information, data that can be supported and has witnesses to the fake flash memory deed. The alerts and posts we publish – are based on evidence.
The data used used to build the list of fake flash memory sellers on eBay. It is also used to issue summary reports on the problem. Data from victims helped us to produce this report: Global Report – eBay Fake Memory 2008 – 2009 , a two year effort. If anyone wants to dispute with us, we can send them an angry mob of fake flash victims. So if you would like to have your item(s) recorded for the record please send us the information above to: sosfakeflashdrive@gmail.com
It is important to report even if the seller is already on the list or an alert is issued.
It increases the counts and evidence against the seller and for the degree of fraud on eBay too. . We publish the sellers and the current counts in our eBay fake flash sellers list. We also produce statistics and reports from the information you send.
In your feedback please put the calling card of “SOSFakeFlash” + “H2testw“. It helps people to find us and get help. It also unnerves fraudsters as it means their days are now numbered. If you left positive feedback, do a follow up to your original feedback – to let everyone know what you discovered. This makes a difference too. If you have a little time, contact at least 5 other buyers from your fake flash seller to warn them to test. It’s a chain reaction, it helps others, reduces victims and soon brings these fraudulent sellers to the attention of both PayPal and eBay.
SOSFakeFlash 
Traveler said
arvindhbishop
Seller has been back in touch and decided to try to end auction early. Any advice on this to seller greatly appreciated. Not intending deception, just trusted supplier.
FkingCh1na said
THE SELLER ►► chance2save-money ◄◄ CHANGE HIS NAME NOW HE IS A chongmaomaoabc!!!
http://myworld.ebay.com/chongmaomaoabc
he sell 16GB memory , in REAL only 2GB!!!
ADD HIM TO BLACKLIST, DON’T BUY FROM THIS SELLER!
James said
Supposed to be a 64GB DataTraveler 150.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320406488891
I just received this device and it is definitely a FAKE. HD Tach reports the name of the device as “USB2.0 2.50” rather than “Datatraveler.” Many R/W errors.
Seller is “williamags” from Kapolei, HI.
JGM said
Twice in a month, I don’t learn, first was ionedream, now a supposedly trusted seller innovico_surplus:
16GB USB Memory Flash Key Pen Disk Drive Stick SAMSUNG
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300331282791
eBay item number: 300331282791
eBay Seller id: innovico_surplus http://myworld.ebay.es/innovico_surplus/
eBay Buyer id: cirrower http://myworld.ebay.es/cirrower
H2testw 1.4:
H2testw always gives me an error at 4096 MB:
Error writing file ‘N:\5.h2w’, offset 0x0.
It is still possible to verify the test data written up to this point.
(No se puede realizar la solicitud por un error del dispositivo de E/S. Code 1117)
Writing speed: 3.38 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
Warning: Only 4096 of 15407 MByte tested.
The media is likely to be defective.
3.7 GByte OK (7864137 sectors)
256.0 MByte DATA LOST (524471 sectors)
Details:0 KByte overwritten (0 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
256.0 MByte corrupted (524471 sectors)
0 KByte aliased memory (0 sectors)
First error at offset: 0x00000000effe9200
Expected: 0x00000000effe9200
Found: 0xe8e8e8e8e8e8e8e8
H2testw version 1.3
Reading speed: 17.2 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
eBay item description: 16GB USB Memory Flash Key Pen Disk Drive Stick SAMSUNG
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300331282791
Seller address:
29-33 Devonshire Place
St Helier
Jersey
JE2 7SY
I've formated it several times and tried to pass the test many times.
I've tried also to fill the drive with video files and they get corrupted.
InspectorTech said
Hi JMG
innovico_surplus is known as a discount usb flash drive seller, usually selling lower grade usb flash drives at extremely reasonable prices (due to chips having a lower final format from bad sector lock outs). He has not been known to sell false capacity until now.
What does this seller have to say about this? This is very important. In the interim his nomination post has been withdrawn and also he has been revoked on the safe ebay seller list effective immediately.
This is a sad day. Sellers must verify their merchandise.
http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=innovico_surplus&Dirn=Received+by
SOSFakeFlash has a zero tolerance policy now.
Miguel Silva said
16 gb fake drives
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290331625180&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Warning: Only 16283 of 16284 MByte tested.
The media is likely to be defective.
3.7 GByte OK (7865039 sectors)
12.1 GByte DATA LOST (25482545 sectors)
Details:0 KByte overwritten (0 sectors)
0.5 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 1 sector)
12.1 GByte corrupted (25482544 sectors)
0 KByte aliased memory (0 sectors)
First error at offset: 0x000000002cb0c000
Expected: 0x000000002cb0c000
Found: 0x000000002cb04000
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 2.10 MByte/s
Reading speed: 5.25 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
JGM said
Innovico has answered:
eBay:
Hi,This device must be formatted before it can be used on your system. For best results, please use the NTFS file format or you can also use the .FAT file format. Once it is formatted, the drive should function correctly. Please also make sure that the port you are using works well. You can test the port by using it with a different item, which has already been tested. If the issue continues, please let us know, as this may indicate a faulty item. Thanks
Regards, Shion (Customer Services)
Paypal:
Hi, We apologize for the inconvenience this has caused. Please return the item to us for a refund/replacement. Our return form is located at the following website, which will take you through the return process:http://www.logiforms.com/formdata/user_forms/17016_5862839/52196/When you complete this online form, a printable document will be sent to your email address. This document will contain a unique barcode for your authorized return. We suggest that you have the post office stamp this document, as it would be your proof of posting.Please note that a completed CN22 form MUST be included with the return package in order for the return to be processed. Returns must be sent out within 7 days. Mail that does not have this will be delayed and may be held up by customs for several weeks.CN22 forms are provided free of charge by the post office.
Laszlo Kovacs said
This memory cards is fake, really capacity only 2 GB !!!
Seller : mykay168
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260447704829&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:GB:1123
SaKo said
Dear odonoghue83,
Hi we suspect this seller of selling FAKE kingston 64gb drives could you please test yours with H2testw (Found on google free) and let me know if it’s FAKE? Your data may be at risk! Check my feedback if you think I am having you on.
Cheers
Paul
– wakosako
Len said
I purchased a FAKE usb memory stick from mobystore on ebay. He stated in the description that it is 16GB, it’s only 2.9GB. I’ve filed a dispute through Paypal.
Here is the results from H2testw v1.4:
Warning: Only 16293 of 16294 MByte tested.
The media is likely to be defective.
2.9 GByte OK (6139776 sectors)
12.9 GByte DATA LOST (27228288 sectors)
Details:0 KByte overwritten (0 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
12.9 GByte corrupted (27228288 sectors)
0 KByte aliased memory (0 sectors)
First error at offset: 0x00000000bb5f0000
Expected: 0x00000000bb5f0000
Found: 0x0000000000000000
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 2.09 MByte/s
Reading speed: 4.74 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
This is a great website. Keep up the good work.
Len
Garry said
New 16GB 1.8″ MP3 MP4 Media Player 3rd Gen FM Rec 16G M 280360987350
seller
showwhat
JiXiu Xiong
showwhat163@gmail.com
contact address
CHEN HAIJIAN
JIA NING NA GUANGCHANG B ZUO 3104
JIABINLU, LUOHU QU
SHENZHEN GUANG DONG
CHINA
report
Many Emails through my private email address he did not email through ebay. After selling all his mp3 players he then closed his ebay account blaming ebay for the problum as below from email
Dear sir/madam,
sorry for any inconveniences.
I feel sorry my ebay have something wrong now, but pls don’t worry ,I already contacted with ebay and upload all files,I believe this will be resolved quickly. we shipped your item on 24 June,it usually takes 7-15 business days(not including saturday and sunday) to reach you.
pls kindly be patient
hope you will get soon
thank you for your understanding in advances.
pls feel free to contact with me
have a nice day
The site was down for about a month so I could not leave feedback, as I guess many other people could not also.
The shop is back on line now so I could leave feed back, I left negitive feedback and his reply was to refund money if I changed it to positive his email was,
dear sir/madam,
I am stilling waiting for your answer
I can refund you if you can help me to revise it?
pls feel free to contact with me
I will try my best to help u
have a nice day
my reply was,
NOW YOU ARE TRYING TO BRIBE ME GO AND GET #*%$ED IT JUST GOES TO SHOW HOW UNSCRUPULOUS YOU ARE AND HOW LOW YOU WILL GO
I had many emails with him and also opened a paypal dispute he did offer to replace or refund if I sent back, I did not, because of the return postage costs $8.00 so I am out of pocket even more, and he would have player back to sell again. NO WAY.
My thoughts are that he sells cheap items eg:ds pens etc, to build up rating and then slips in counterfit items when all sold and befor shipping all of them, (note the sales are many items over a short time) he then closes shop, when its all quit he reopens with a high rating, meaning Ebays rating system does not help all that well, his rating was 98.7% and is even higher now over 99% after sellind a lot of mp3 players………
memory report
Warning: Only 152 of 16329 MByte tested.
The media is likely to be defective.
0 KByte OK (0 sectors)
152 MByte DATA LOST (311296 sectors)
Details:0 KByte overwritten (0 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
152 MByte corrupted (311296 sectors)
0 KByte aliased memory (0 sectors)
First error at offset: 0x0000000000000000
Expected: 0x0000000000000000
Found: 0x65004c0020002d06
H2testw version 1.3
Reading speed: 15.8 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
JGM said
Innovico case solution:
After returning the “faulty” item, following their complex instructions, on 7th August, 11 days with no answers, neither PayPal nor email, and once I’ve confirmed they got the returned item in their hands I’ve changed this morning the PayPal dispute to reclamation.
This afternoon I’ve received the complete refund, item + shipping costs, from Innovico.
Thanks for your support.
16GB USB Memory Flash Key Pen Disk Drive Stick SAMSUNG
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300331282791
JGM said
Correction: although Innovico says that will refund returning shipping costs of faulty items, they have refunded me just de bid amount. I’ve lost 3,53 € in this game.
Extracted from an Innovico’s email:
“Please also include a receipt for the cost of shipping in with the package, and we will gladly reimburse you for this cost. Thanks. Regards, Shion (Customer Services)”
JGM said
Update: After a new email reclamation Innovico has refunded me also the returning shipping costs.
Altavista said
Add jiejie5544 to the list, fortunately i did not pay for the item, it seems that paypal has suspended his account. This seller have removed all the 32gb shhc cards from his ebay store, unfortunately about 6 ebayers bought them (it seems like a couple of the buyers were fake too just looking at their comments, they bought the memory on Aug 19 and the same day they left a positive feedback, very suspicious)
AWester said
Hello,
First of all sorry for my bad English.
recently i bought a 32gb sdhc from: xoldskool a couple of day's ago there was an artical about Xoldskool, i couldt find it any more?
did i looked wrong?
i did get my money back but didn't get my shipping costs as he promised..
he said he couldn't send it to my paypal account for some reason..
minutes before he had send me the costs of sdhc card..
i have the card here at home. what sould i do send it ore wait to get my shipping costs??
This site was very helpfull for me!
Thanks
AWester
AWester said
sorry forgot an question,
what sould i do for the feedback, something like this;
Fake 32GB SDHC CARD!! did get my money back but wouldn’t give me the shipping costs FAKE!!
thanks in advance for your replies.
AWester
Shylesh said
Hello,
i had purchased a 80 gb pen drive online and was working fine for the first 6 days and then got infected by a virus !then had problems formatting it ,then by the help of your site was successful through the hp usb utility software, and later loaded up to 3.24 gb of data
but a day later all data except for the pics gets corrupted and numerous folders appear with a name ++++ ,——– and will not get deleted and corrupts all the data what should i do ?
i found help through your site before and i am confident that you
will help me again!
waiting for your reply,
thank you
InspectorTech said
Hi Shylesh,
There is no 80GB pen stick. The 40GB and 80GB fakes seem to appear alot in Asia, especially in India.
The HP tool is useful, but it generally can not correct the controller chip. It seems to reset the flash chip, but does not clear the reprogramming of the usb flash chip controller.
You should move off any precious information you can from the usb flash drive to a safe location. Then go to the fixfakeflash site and read up on vid and pid. You need to try and identify the flash chip vendor. Then to if there is no available solution, off to the russian site to hunt for a download.
If you have very gentle fingers, you might consider taking the usb flash drive apart. You would look for the little square chip (flash chip vendor) and write down all the serial information, then do the same thing for the long black chip (this is the flash storage chip), again the serial information is important. It may tell you who the manufacturer of the storage chip is and you could try to verify it’s true size.
The H2testw 1.4 is very important as it will give you a good indication of what your penstick really is in size.
Armed with the information about the vendor chip family you can begin to look for a low level reformatting software to correct and return the usb flash drive to it’s real size. This is the only sure way to fix it. The HP Tools are good, but they usually can not reset the fake reprogramming that was performed on the vendor usb controller chip.
Take care with low level format programmes. You need to use the right one. Flash chips do not like being repeatedly reformatted. It is normally only done once in a flash chip’s life time.
Good luck on your quest, let us know how it turns out. It can be a challenge but fun too.
PS Your 80GB wouldn’t happen to be a Kingston Datatraveler by any chance, would it?
rydangel said
I was going to buy a 64 gb usb drive. fortunately i was outbidded before the auction ended. i then decided to with a 16 gb flash drive for $19.99 and free shipping. The seller was from the USA and has a high positive feedback rating. Then I read this article and I think the seller may be selling fakes. The seller is affordablehighqualityitems. The auction url is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180386497665. This person has 1 negative feedback for the past month that was later changed to positive after refunding money for defective merchandise.”defective and returned does not answer emails not recommended my 1st – feedback Buyer:
pinball118 ( 195 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] )
Aug-23-09 09:14
*
Follow-up by pinball118 (Aug-23-09 18:28):
I take it back seller responded its OK to order from this seller
New 16gb USB 2.0 Flash Drive Memory Pen Stick 16 gb 16g (#180386497220) US $20.00 The seller has 11 negative feedbacks for the past 6 months and a 11 negative feedback for the past 12 months. One buyer reported negative feedback for a hacked memory card, only to change it after being refunded.”
The seller has a 11 negative for the past 6 months and 11 for the past year. The seller has been an ebay seller since Feb 2009.
Negative Feedback:
Negative feedback rating 100% hacked memory. It has Only 1.9Gb Buyer:
rogozinea ( 93 [Feedback score is 50 to 99] )
Aug-16-09 16:32
New 8gb USB 2.0 Flash Drive Memory Pen Stick 8 gb 8g (#180386497665) US $13.00 View Item
2.Transaction was fine but the product failed completely after one use. Buyer:
namoi165 ( 0 )
Aug-03-09 08:41
New 8gb USB 2.0 Flash Drive Memory Pen Stick 8 gb 8g (#170335564239) US $13.59
Corrected Feedback after Refund:
1.SELLER SOLVED PROBLEM SWIFTLY. THANKS!!! Buyer:
rickc9694 ( 198 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] )
Aug-19-09 09:25
Feedback was revised on Aug-29-09 08:23
New 16gb USB 2.0 Flash Drive Memory Pen Stick 16 gb 16g (#170347403358) US $20.00
2. Item was defective but seller gave me money back…. Buyer:
souley16 ( 124 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] )
Aug-06-09 19:34
New 8gb USB 2.0 Flash Drive Memory Pen Stick 8 gb 8g (#180371724983) US $13.59
3.ITEM ARRIVED, BUT HAS DRIVE ERRORS AND DOES NOT READ OVER 4GB Buyer:
phantazma ( 492 [Feedback score is 100 to 499] )
Aug-06-09 05:23
New 16gb USB 2.0 Flash Drive Memory Pen Stick 16 gb 16g (#170347403358) US $20.00
kittyfireflash said
Hi rydangel,
We know about affordablehighqualityitems. Either he is running a charity or something else. We will be inviting buyers soon, to test and share their buying experience. It will be interesting to learn if we have an eBay seller determined to lose money by providing merchandise at below costs for flash nand chips.
It would be interesting to see what testing reveals. Not sure if these usb pensticks are easy to open and photograph. Besides the usual testing, the truth is usually inside a usb penstick. The chips tell all.
Ernie said
There are two 16 gig sd cards sold by chaogestore88 on ebay and the one that is no brand name with a rainbow at the top has two usable gigs and the Elite Pro only has one usable gig. There are many ebay sellers that sell these fake fraudulent sd cards and many of them are victims themselves.
Ernie
One that knows said
check out this listing:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280392232971&_trkparms=tab%3DWatching
128gb kingdton dt200 buy now 199$
seller is registered for a month or so, with 11 feedbacks,
all of them as a buyer for cheap stuff.
Obvious.
Be careful kids.
kittyfireflash said
Hi Ernie,
chaogestore88 does not quality as a victim seller, the first report came in in June, 2009. He is still selling. The rainbow one is not in our database, but it will be shortly. A true victim seller would pull his listings immediately and begin testing his stock. Then if honourable go about the very difficult and unpleasant task of contracting buyers, explaining and refunding. If less honourable, run like hell. If people report to a seller and the seller continues, it speaks for itself.
There are definately eBay sellers who are victims. Many have purchased from those wholesaler sites in the orient, these are eBay sellers NOT BASED IN THE ORIENT. Those in the orient know what they are doing in 95% of the cases. The recent study of ours published by fake flash news pretty much sums it up and what is going on with those id’s.
The sad part is that small sellers caught with fake flash now have to receive the same treatment as the big sellers. There is a zero tolerance policy in effect. We did not like having to impliment it. Our data and work for the last 19 to 20 months indicates that the problem is growing. It is not decreasing. There was no choice. While it is true that most fake flash sellers are based in the orient (you can see from the categories), it is unfair to single out only sellers in the Orient. That would be discrimation. The same rules and treatment have to apply to all sellers caught.
However…
We ask readers to look through eBay listings for items that appear suspect and ask sellers to test their items to determine if the capacity is genuine. This has been going on from the begining. We need more help. It is best if people concentrate on sellers in their home countries or near by. It has helped many to bow out gracefully and avoid getting caught up in the fake flash wars.
Look for sellers with decent scores and those who have just started to list such items. Give them a break, contact them. Ask if they have verified their merchandise. Let them know SOSFakeflash exists. The FlashDriveFacts site is used by a lot of potential sellers. The reference catologue of fakes has stopped a lot of ebay members from getting into this market, as they learn the awful truth.
We don’t want to see them end up in an alert or on the fake flash sellers list. It is a sellers duty to understand what he is selling and to inspect and verify that what he is selling does deliver the capacity he/she advertises.
If people contact sellers outside of the orient and warn them – it is proactive. A lot stop listing immediately. Those a little more stubborn, once they learn about the FrankenFlash Project, the sites and their potential fate become more inclined to test and get out quick. The few who remain, ignore and will not test often find themselves immortalized on the internet.
For eBay sellers In the Orient
Please. Please. Pretty Please?
DO NOT FALL FOR ANY CROCIDILE TEARS, OF MY SUPPLIER CHEATED ME. I AM A VICTIM TOO! SOB. SOB.
We have been monitoring and studying them for a little too long. 95% to 97% know exactly what they are doing. Their objective is to bond with you, to get your sympathy. Anything to stop you putting a neg. They know once neg’s begin, their days are numbered and they will have to crack open a new id to continue.
If people wonder why there are so many id’s for fake flash sellers in the orient, the sad truth is, it is the same seller. With a fleet of id’s. All in various stages of their lifespan. It is an assembly line. FakeFlashNew’s recent feature gives concrete recent examples.
papp_t said
Item title: 32GB SDHC Secure Digital Memory SD Card 32GB 32 Go HC
Item number: 220466452198
Buyer User ID: papp_t
Seller User ID: jiejie5544
Error writing file ‘E:\1.h2w’, offset 0x3f700000.
It is still possible to verify the test data written up to this point.
(Adathiba (CRC) Code 23)
Writing speed: 4.38 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
Warning: Only 1015 of 31747 MByte tested.
The media is likely to be defective.
0 KByte OK (0 sectors)
1015 MByte DATA LOST (2078720 sectors)
Details:11.5 MByte overwritten (23648 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
1003.4 MByte corrupted (2055072 sectors)
11.5 MByte aliased memory (23648 sectors)
First error at offset: 0x0000000000000008
Expected: 0x0000000000000011
Found: 0x0000000000000000
H2testw version 1.3
Reading speed: 4.67 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
seller:
Wang junmei, jiejie5533@gmail.com /from paypal/
Telephone: (0755)82401094 /from ebay message/
From the cover:
LEE Kin Ming
Basement, No.54
Tai Po road
Sham Shui Po
First tested with HDTune: ~97%bad sector
The card has a label like Panasonic cards (gold, yellow), and under that a label like Transcend (colored)
Randy said
Maybe Papp_T card was a reject and redirected from the garabage to the fraudsters. The crc and other errors indicate a poor quality card, possibly a reject being recycled.
D-Dog said
Here is how I got my money back for a fake SD card, maybe it will help anyone with the same problem.
My report of a fake seller (already emailed to this site);
1. Ebay item no. – 250481940364 [bought 19/08/2009]
2. Ebay seller ID – mykay168
3. [I sent my Ebay ID in the report]
4. H2testw output;
The media is likely to be defective.
1.9 GByte OK (4137712 sectors)
13.6 GByte DATA LOST (28595472 sectors)
Details:0 KByte overwritten (0 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
13.6 GByte corrupted (28595472 sectors)
0 KByte aliased memory (0 sectors)
First error at offset: 0x000000007e45e000
Expected: 0x000000007e45e000
Found: 0xffffffffffffffff
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 2.09 MByte/s
Reading speed: 7.54 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
5. Ebay item description;
Brand New
16GB Secure Digital High Capacity (SDHC) Memory Card
Free 7-in-1 USB 2.0 SDHC Memory Card Reader
6. Seller address – not given anywhere on the envelope or emails;
telephone number given as 13145919601
email mykay888@gmail.com.we or mykay888@gmail.com
7. I tested the memory as soon as I got it and raised a PayPal dispute
immediately – ref. PP-779-722-277
I went straight to a PayPal dispute (no emails to the seller first) on the grounds that the card was a counterfeit, telling them this;
"The memory card supplied is a counterfeit. It is actually a 2GB SD card which has been reprogrammed to falsely report its capacity as 16GB (which is what it was sold as and is described as on the label).
Here is the H2testw report for the card;
[H2testw report pasted in as above]
I require an immediate refund of the money paid.
N.B. – please do not request that I post this item anywhere, it is illegal in the UK to send counterfeit goods through the postal service.
Further information on this seller's previous history of supplying counterfeit memory cards can be found on his profile at https://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2009/07/01/ebay-fake-flash-sellers-list-200907-fake-mp-players-memory-sticks-and-memory-cards/"
The next morning the seller had refunded my money and the dispute was closed in my favour.
The seller left this message;
"hi
sorry for coming to this.
to make the problem an end,we refund you full with no item back.
please confirm the money and accept our apology.
hope we both will have a happy ending.
regards"
mykay168 is a power seller with 1822 feedback since they registered on 17/3/09, they have no items for sale on Ebay now. Hmmmm….
Hope that helps someone.
Don
VISUAL_IDEAS said
Item description: 16GB USB 2.0 Flash Memory 16G Pen Stick Thumb Drive H
Item number: 170372438728
Seller’s ebay ID: upcomingtrend
Your ebay ID: visual_ideas
Results from H2testw:
The media is likely to be defective.1.9 GByte OK (4104166 sectors)
13.6 GByte DATA LOST (28629018 sectors)
Details:
4.9 GByte overwritten (10371919 sectors)
23 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 46 sectors)
8.7 GByte corrupted (18257053 sectors)
31.5 KByte aliased memory (63 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×0000000000000000
Expected: 0×0000000000000000
Found: 0×00000003e5700000
H2testw version 1.3
Reading speed: 4.13 MByte/s
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And upcomingtrend just filed a Unpaid Item case against me to force me to change my negative feedback against him. The idiot!
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Here's upcomingtrend whinny email:
Dear friend,
Havn't you receved my previuos message before I issue the refund to you?
I said "Here I full refund you for my sincere apologies."
How could you leave me a bad feedback in return???
I am so sorry for any inconvenience caused.
Please kindly help me revise it okay?
Awaiting your response.
Regards,
Candy Tong (uctrend@gmail.com)
Earl Smith said
We need to get the word out to the buyers from this ebay seller from hong kong mr.sixty7_onlineshop, he has been selling a lot of these drives. If you can refer them back to OBIETEN feedback, there is information there and creditability. It may make it a little more believable if they can see some of the comments and items that were sold, including counterfeits. On my information listing my email address is there and I can quickly send them the information and test software information. Takes about 5 seconds. I tried to contact them and ebay has told me that I have reached my daily limit, and the day hasn’t even started yet.
Miguel said
Ebay member who sold the item : tomtheprinter
Warning: Only 8029 of 8064 MByte tested.
The media is likely to be defective.
442.5 MByte OK (906361 sectors)
7.4 GByte DATA LOST (15537031 sectors)
Details:0 KByte overwritten (0 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
7.4 GByte corrupted (15537031 sectors)
0 KByte aliased memory (0 sectors)
First error at offset: 0x000000001ba8f200
Expected: 0x000000001ba8f200
Found: 0x0000000000000000
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 12.2 MByte/s
Reading speed: 7.54 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
Allen said
1.eBay item number
250487092083
250484989499
260464901664
2.eBay Seller id:
systore_seller
3.Your eBay Buyer id:
jerry_ys
4.Your output from H2testw 1.4
The media is likely to be defective.
1.9 GByte OK (4134896 sectors)
13.6 GByte DATA LOST (28598288 sectors)
Details:0 KByte overwritten (0 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
13.6 GByte corrupted (28598288 sectors)
0 KByte aliased memory (0 sectors)
First error at offset: 0x000000007e2fe000
Expected: 0x000000007e2fe000
Found: 0xffffffffffffffff
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 1.60 MByte/s
Reading speed: 4.50 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
5.eBay item description if the listing has been removed
16 GB SD Card Flash Memory Card for Camera pc16GO 16g
16GB SD CARD Secure Digital Memory Card SDHC High Speed
16GB SD Card Flash Memory Card +USB2.0 Writter USB 16G
6.Seller address (complete) if you have it. Important to build profile and track multiple id’s
Seller sent me email to remind a new address, just 2 minutes later when I open a case from Paypal.
please ship it back to the following address for systore_seller :
Ms. Lam Ming Chu
Room 1316 Sin Sam House, Lung Hang Estate, Shatin, Hong Kong
the address on paypal is not correct.
7.A short word of you experience and or thoughts if you like (optional)
Disputed to paypal and seller asked to return the items then refund. Paypal noticed me as follow:
Return the item to the seller, at the following address: Room 25C, Liang Ga Bldg, 296 Des Voeux Rd WSai Ying Pun, HK Hong Kong. Once you have returned the item, please log in to your PayPal account within 10 calendar days of receipt of this email and provide tracking information that can be verified online.
Two munites later, seller sent me an email to ask me return items to the new address.
I went to Canada Post to inquire the shipping fee to the new address, I was told if I ship with a Tracking Number, I must pay CAD$56. That rediculous!
I email to Paypal to ask can I return items by a regular parcel. There was no response from Paypal. I called Paypal 6 days later. An agent heard my complaint and asked permition from supervisor, then I got refund to my credit. Unfortunately, there were 3 items in 2 case, I was only asked one case id, there is no refund for the last one item. I called Paypal again, the agent named Dave told me pay $56 to return or cancel my case to keep that fake card. I called again, agent Monica told me the same as agent Dave. I said “Thank you” and thrown the phone.
This is my story. I have no idea, Why this seller is still alive on eBay and so many buyer left positive feedback.
Adrien said
Please add this guy to the list- superkay101
32GB SDHC + reader is in fact 939mB…………………..
Steven said
Beware of bestelecusa, on EBay, whom I purchased a 16 gb flash drive for $15.59. I tested it and it was defective; would hold 2 – 4 Gbytes. I complained to EBay and got a refund. Unfortunately the other 32 EBay buyers probably also got junk. I asked a few to see if it was just me. One said I must have just got a bad one and that they had stored 532 songs and still had 60% free space. But I mentioned that didn’t sound right, that they sould have more than 60% still free? I’m still not sure if others spoke up?
kittyfireflash said
To Steven
Did you report in using the Report a Fake Tab? To issue an alert we need you to do this. There is a zero tolerance policy now in effect, there are just too many victims. Our experience with fake flash sellers (20+ months) shows that it only takes one confirmed report. A 16GB flash drive can not be sold for $15.59. The cost of the memory chips alone exceed this price. Please report in Steven so we can issue an alert.
Gary said
8GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive Memory Thumb Pen Stick 8 GB (180401301514)
Seller ID: eskonica245. Supposed ‘Real’name: Mew Ling Kwong Address: None shown or given in ebay even after requesting details.
h2testw Results:
Warning: Only 8163 of 8164 MByte tested.
The media is likely to be defective.
3.7 GByte OK (7811849 sectors)
4.2 GByte DATA LOST (8905975 sectors)
Details:4.0 GByte overwritten (8549310 sectors)
44.5 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 89 sectors)
174.1 MByte corrupted (356576 sectors)
63 KByte aliased memory (126 sectors)
First error at offset: 0x00000000000028e0
Expected: 0xfbabf36e7031d0e0
Found: 0x7babf36e7031d0e0
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 2.25 MByte/s
Reading speed: 6.47 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
I bought two flash sticks of a different number but was told they had ran out so said they would send these instead. One doesn't work at all and has a RAW format the other is shown above in the h2test results.
Gary said
Why was my report, submitted earlier today removed? I thought I followed every pointer above.
Gary
kittyfireflash said
To Gary,
Your report was not removed. Everyone who submits a comment sees what the comment will look like. You will also see that “Your Comment is waiting moderation…” in a lot of cases. The reason for “moderation” is to protect this site from attacks. SOSFakeFlash is trying to address a serious issue and it is NOT popular with many.
So we ask everyone to be patient when submitting a comment. Members of SOSFakeFlash team are on rotation to assist moderation. The best way to find out when your comment appears is to subscribe to the RSS Feed for comments.
PS. To have an alert on the seller a person must send the information to the email address – otherwise we do not raise an investigation. Incomplete information ends up in a “need more details basket” and we rarely have time to look at it.
Gary said
Ok Thanks. When and if my post appears should I copy it to the email address then?
Kittyfireflash said
To Gary,
Yes, send to sosfakeflashdrive@gmail.com and remember to include items #1 through #4.
Gary said
Further to my report earlier I have pasted the reply I got from the seller. Which makes no sense to me as the item is still running, and OEM? What do you advise on returning the drives, I dont trust them and to send it back registered would cost nearly the same as a drive any way! I hate fraudsters! At least we have the address now.
The reply:
The item is an OEM product and I only learnt the situation lately. Therefore, I closed the listing about 10 days ago. I am willing to let you have a full refund. Please return the drives to me to the undermentioned address:
Flat C, 3/F. Block 10
80 Tsuen King Circuit
Tsuen King Garden
Tsuen Wan, N.T.
Hong Kong
Upon receipt of the returned drives, I’ll ask Paypal to refund in full to you.
Sorry for all the inconvenience.
eskonica245
Gary said
Further to my earlier postings, I submitted a claim to paypal who surprise suprise want me to return the items, registered at my cost…ER NO. I have received an email from the seller who has the nerve to tell me he suspects “monkey business” on my part because I am refusing to return the items! Unbelieveable. Oh and to add to my earlier report also I have been given another address for the seller Flat 719, 7/F Tin Kin HseTin Wan Est, HKHong Kong. So thats two address now. I have contacted some previous buyers to and given them the testing software and hopefully they will get back to me with the results.
Pseudolus said
http://myworld.ebay.com/fiveway_powers
Has shipped me a fake drive.
Upon discussing the issue with him, he issued a full refund without requiring the drive to be returned, asking only for positive feedback instead.
kittyfireflash said
To Pseudolus
Please reprot to us with details. Use the report a fake tabl. Otherwise we can not issue an alert on the internet to warn people.
Asking for positive feeback is against eBay policy! Send us the details. The emails. Please also forward to eBay immediately!
eBay seller fiveway_powers has definately made his/her guilt clear. Unfortunately we can not alert consumers without your assistence. We have rules. We don’t like them. People trust our information concerning sellers, so it is important you report in.
To everyone
If you are a victim, you probably wonder why? Why was the seller’s feedback score so high? Pseudolus report is not unusual. It happens all the time!
When buyers give in, sell out, by leaving positive for a rerfund, you become the NEXT VICTIM!
Use the tool: http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs
type in the seller’s ebay id. If you see revised feedback, start worrying!
Ask yourself a few questions:
How do you like being a victim?
Do you wish others left negative feedback so you would have been more careful?
Do you want others to experience what you are now facing?
If you answer, No, Yes and NO!
Fight back!
This site exists because eBay members chose to fight. They gave up “refunds” because they cared more about YOU then the money they lost.
Everyone must act according to their conscience. Decide where you want to be.
James said
270437948333 Brand New 32GB Secure Digital SDHC Memory SD Card 32 GB 1 $39.95 USD
Ebay has already pulled the listing though.
René said
zuzieq56 zuzieq@126.com (SELLER)
http://myworld.ebay.com/reneweesp (buyer)
260474615333 – 32 GB Brand New 32GB USB 2.0 Flash Memory Drive a4
260474610228 – 32 GB Brand New 32GB USB 2.0 Flash Memory Drive a3
260474604404 – 32 GB Brand New 32GB USB 2.0 Flash Memory Drive a5
260474599333 – 32 GB Brand New 32GB USB 2.0 Flash Memory Drive a1
260474588990 – 32 GB Brand New 32GB USB 2.0 Flash Memory Drive a3
The media is likely to be defective.
3.9 GByte OK (8286671 sectors)
27.7 GByte DATA LOST (58240561 sectors)
Details:5.7 GByte overwritten (11961182 sectors)
94 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 188 sectors)
22.0 GByte corrupted (46279191 sectors)
20 KByte aliased memory (40 sectors)
First error at offset: 0x00000000fce10000
Expected: 0x00000000fce10000
Found: 0x00000007ee300000
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 2.22 MByte/s
Reading speed: 4.16 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
Dispute opened in paypal (in progress)
Lawyer if Paypal won't refund me.
Opening a dispute credit card compay (they will refund anyway (last option)
pep said
1. 260475756515
2. newarcade(Connie Xiong)(arcadecs@gmail.com)
3. junckmerchant
4.
The media is likely to be defective.
3.5 GByte OK (7547939 sectors)
27.6 GByte DATA LOST (57947101 sectors)
Details:22.7 GByte overwritten (47657866 sectors)
43 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 86 sectors)
4.9 GByte corrupted (10289149 sectors)
250.5 KByte aliased memory (501 sectors)
First error at offset: 0x0000000042c8f080
Expected: 0xe761503853510080
Found: 0xe761523853510080
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 1.09 MByte/s
Reading speed: 5.02 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
5.
Capacity: 32GB
File System: FAT32
Feature: Enhanced DSC function & flawlessly video recording
Compatibility: All devices with SD 2.0 or SDHC logo
Small – About the size of a postage stamp (24mm X 32mm X 2.1mm)
Secure – Built-in write-protect switch prevents accidental data loss
Flexible – Compliant with Secure Digital Music Initiative (SDMI) potable device requirements
Economical – Low power consumption is easy on batteries
Simple – as easy as plug-and-play
Supports Windows® XP/2000/98/95/NT, Macintosh® OS and OS/2 Warp.
Operating Temperature — -25° to 80° C / -13° to 185° F
Storage Temperature — -40° to 85° C / -40° to 185° F
Voltage — 3.3v
6.
Chen Haijian
21A BZUO LUSHANDASHA
CHUNFENGLU LUOHUQU
SHENZHEN GUANGDONG CHINA
7. didnt bother putting anything on it, wipped in the pc open H2testw v1.4, i knew as soon as the write spedd didnt rise past 2.0MByte/s i knew it was a fake, especially for a class 6 SDHC.
René said
UPDATE!!
260474615333 – 32 GB Brand New 32GB USB 2.0 Flash Memory Drive a4
260474610228 – 32 GB Brand New 32GB USB 2.0 Flash Memory Drive a3
260474604404 – 32 GB Brand New 32GB USB 2.0 Flash Memory Drive a5
260474599333 – 32 GB Brand New 32GB USB 2.0 Flash Memory Drive a1
260474588990 – 32 GB Brand New 32GB USB 2.0 Flash Memory Drive a3
The media is likely to be defective.
3.9 GByte OK (8286671 sectors)
27.7 GByte DATA LOST (58240561 sectors)
Details:5.7 GByte overwritten (11961182 sectors)
94 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 188 sectors)
22.0 GByte corrupted (46279191 sectors)
20 KByte aliased memory (40 sectors)
First error at offset: 0×00000000fce10000
Expected: 0×00000000fce10000
Found: 0×00000007ee300000
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 2.22 MByte/s
Reading speed: 4.16 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
Dispute opened in paypal (in progress)
Lawyer if Paypal won't refund me.
Opening a dispute credit card compay (they will refund anyway (last option)
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zuzieq56 zuzieq@126.com (SELLER)
Have to send items back to:
Jiangnan Road, No. 100 ZhongGuangDaSha, Room 1607
Guangzhou
Guangdong
510240
China
Paypal will refund 100% except send back costs, have to send it back with track&trace options and provide paypal the track&trace number.
If paypal recieves this number they will refund me directly.
JAY said
**** PAYPAL WILL NOT ISSUES REFUNDS UNLESS YOU HAVE PROVE THAT YOUR FLASH DRIVE IS FAKE ****
IE YOU NEED TO GET PCWORLD OR SIMILAR TO CHECK IT… AND THEN YOU HAVE TO SIGN AN DOCUMENT TO SAY YOU WILL DESTROY THE UNIT.
KittyFireFlash said
To Jay and Everyone,
It depends. Not everyone gets the same treatment at paypal. That is part of the problem.
If you have been selected for the “Give Me Proof” treatment you do not need to contact PC World. If they received all the fake memory items purchased on eBay they wouldn’t be able to get into their mail room or offices, too many sacks of fakes piled high.
Please read this article
PayPal Refunds Victim Of Fake – False Capacity USB Flash Drives Purchased On Ebay. 8 Month Battle Leads To Success.
You will see how “Superman” dealt with the paypal issues and his many eBay fake flash sellers.
As for signing and faxing in a document confirming that you have “destroyed” the item, it is correct. It is also perfectly fine. It is a dangerous item. You just need a hammer. You can also photograph the destruction for your records and to send along to them if you wish. Destroying it does not mean you can’t hang on to the bits and pieces in case they try to pull a fast one. We have not heard of anyone who was not refunded when they signed and returned the document. We keep stressing how dangerous these items are. So if paypal demands you destroy as a condition of refund, use the hammer, but keep the evidence and as a reminder of a very painful lesson learned.
pep said
i need help guys, busy in a claim and i got this off Paypal
“After careful review, we have determined that you are eligible for a refund. To qualify for this refund, please send the items whose claims were granted back to the seller in their original condition and keep your tracking information. You are responsible for postage and packing costs.
Please post to:福田区华强北赛格广场五楼5930号, 深圳市, 广东省, 518000, China”
ive got til Oct 12 2009 to provide tracking details, i really need some help on this
thanks