Report A Fake 2008-2010 (April)
The Fake flash memory wars are raging. Especially on eBay!
Please report your fake flash memory seller to us – see below for the information we need. We do not have all sellers of counterfeit and false capacity usb flash drives, mpx players and memory cards on file. Your contribution helps everyone.
Addresses of sellers from your mailing envelopes are very helpful. It helps us to spot fraud rings operating on eBay. Use the search box and type in your sellers id, if there is an article make sure to leave a comment and also your progress in dealing with him.
As of June 2009, SOSFakeFlash announced a zero tolerance policy. One confirmation can lead to an alert against an eBay seller. We need to reduce the number of victims, too many being frauded. Regards, From the Fake Flash Angels at SOSFakeFlash
- It is important you test your item to find it’s true capacity. Read: H2testw 1.4 – Gold Standard In Detecting USB Counterfeit Drives
- Do not assume if you have made a paypal claim and it has been closed that you can not reopen it. Many victims have been forced to do this.
- Do not leave positive feedback in exhange for a refund. You only make the problem worse. It is probably why you bought from the seller in the first place! Read: eBay Victims do not leave positive Feedback or change FB to positive to get refunds! Any seller who tries to make you do this is in violation of eBay rules.
Any company who had been involved directly or indirectly with a transaction involving fake flash memory items is liable and responsible – if they chose not to respond to the situation or take the warnings issued by customers seriously. To ignore the issue is to condone it.
- Reminder eBay see: EBay Ordered to Pay $61 Million in Sale of Counterfeit Goods
- Reminder PayPal: Steele Settlement Website
If you have confirmed that you have a fake (purchased from eBay) and you wanted it entered into the database as evidence so we can post an alert or update counts against a seller we will need the following information from you:
- eBay item number
- eBay Seller id
- Your eBay Buyer id (d0n’t forget this please)
- Your output from H2testw 1.4
- eBay item description title
- Seller address complete if you have it (mailing envelopes, eBay, PayPal). Important to build profile and track multiple id’s
- Seller email address
- A short word of you experience and or thoughts if you like (optional)
Reminder, your eBay Buyer id is NOT published on the internet when you report in to us. eBay fake flash memory seller ids are published on the internet to warn other buyers.
If your seller used private auction listings to hide the listing, or a multiple item buy now listing please send a screen capture of the listing to help us cut down on the investigation time.
To capture your buy now listing is very important if the seller is not on file with us (eBay Fake Memory Seller Lists) , if the seller is suspended you will lose your evidence and so could we.
Send this information directly to sosfakeflashdrive@gmail.com
We will not enter information into the database from a public site without 1-4.
If you are reporting several sellers (it happens) please keep the 1-8 pattern. Easy to understand, the more you save us time the faster we can investigate and enter.
There is no time limit in reporting a seller, you can find a lot of information inside of your paypal account for proof. We have had cases as old as 18 months from purchase being reported. It is why recording in a database is so important.
SOSFakeFlash is very strict about collecting information, data that can be supported and has witnesses to the fake flash memory deed. The alerts and posts we publish – are based on evidence.
The data used used to build the list of fake flash memory sellers on eBay. It is also used to issue summary reports on the problem. Data from victims helped us to produce this report: Global Report – eBay Fake Memory 2008 – 2009 , a two year effort. If anyone wants to dispute with us, we can send them an angry mob of fake flash victims. So if you would like to have your item(s) recorded for the record please send us the information above to: sosfakeflashdrive@gmail.com
It is important to report even if the seller is already on the list or an alert is issued.
It increases the counts and evidence against the seller and for the degree of fraud on eBay too. . We publish the sellers and the current counts in our eBay fake flash sellers list. We also produce statistics and reports from the information you send.
In your feedback please put the calling card of “SOSFakeFlash” + “H2testw“. It helps people to find us and get help. It also unnerves fraudsters as it means their days are now numbered. If you left positive feedback, do a follow up to your original feedback – to let everyone know what you discovered. This makes a difference too. If you have a little time, contact at least 5 other buyers from your fake flash seller to warn them to test. It’s a chain reaction, it helps others, reduces victims and soon brings these fraudulent sellers to the attention of both PayPal and eBay.
SOSFakeFlash 
Las said
FAKE MEMORY SELLER chongmaomaoabc
http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/chongmaomaoabc_W0QQ_nkwZQQ_armrsZ1QQ_fromZQQ_ipgZ
THANKS
luxurybabi said
Sako why buy a drive if you knew it was fake, i suppose your curiosity got the better of you hoping that it was a genuine bargain. sorry it was not for you then lol
SaKo said
At luxurybabi Sorry if you thought we was takeing the piss out of you! It was only a bit of banter on here! Not directed at you! I was a victim of flash fraud and thats why I learnt how to spot them! I try to help other people spot them and try to stop as many people selling fakes on ebay as I have time for, If you do spot the man who sold you the fakes please do call the police and don’t do anything that would get you into trouble, And this site has good informatin that might help you get a conviction (If the guy is caught) I told people you refunded me on here so that they knew you were a ok seller! I also left you feedback on eBay saying you were a honest seller! Again sorry if our banter felt like we were taking the piss. Good luck with finding the guy 😉
Paul
SaKo said
To luxurybabi
I evan offerd to test the drive for you if you was unsure of the drive!
Any way all the best
SaKo
RockDoctor said
LuxuryBabi, for your information, some people find the act of one person defrauding another to be an offensive action, and if the police and courts are unable or unwilling to get involved in prosecuting such fraud, then they get involved themselves. People invest their own time, effort and money in documenting and exposing these fraudulent sellers. It’s a public service.
Now, since the volunteer who brought you to attention seems to have accepted that you too are a victim rather than a fraudster, then I’m willing to accept that ; it’s quite plausible, and it seems that your actions have backed up your description of being defrauded yourself. So that’s all cool then.
Ask yourself – would you point out to the man next to you at the bar that his pint had been filled to well short of the line? It’s a minor fraud by the barman ; it might even be unintentinoal (but multiply it by several hundred pints a night … not so minor). Would you take action?
Try a bigger question – you know that one of your neighbours is both claiming the dole and working ; that’s potentially tens of thousands of pounds that s/he’s stealing from everyone around. Would you report him/her? It’s quite a lot of money they’re taking from the tax payer.
Try an even bigger question – you find that there’s an eBay seller selling cheap brake discs for your car, you get a set, and the first time you put them to the test in the rain they disintegrate. You came to a halt safely. But the next person? Would you take action. How would you feel if a friend or relative was killed by the out of control car?
The level of risk that these fraudulent copies represent is somewhere between the levels I’ve described. The hazards range from very annoying or emotionally upsetting data loss to potentially at least loss of important medical documentation. Some people here take that quite seriously ; I do. (And only partly because I killed a guy a few years ago by getting first-aid wrong ; you’d be surprised to know that I take first-aid training seriously too.)
It’s up to you to decide what you’re going to do about the fraudulent business that you got inadvertently caught up in. But it is a serious subject.
On a technical note … somewhere in your banter with Sako you’d said that you’d copied 60-odd GB of data onto the drives and they worked OK. That’s not the appropriate test – you need to test the quality of the data RESTORED from the USB stick. Copy a few movies from DVD onto the suspect stick, then copy them back to the hard drive in a different folder to where they came from ; see if you can play them. It’s a test worth doing for yourself (and it’s essentially what the H2testW program does (but doesn’t provide you with neat reports). If you feel brave, do the test with your family’s baby photos and wedding videos, after deleting the backups. Feels a bit different now?
Welcome to the light side, Luxe!
(it’s meant to be a Star Wars quote)
Traveler said
To Jim:
You must think we are all very ignorant. I apologise for not getting back earlier with some kind of response to the important issue you raised.
Getting the brand names to put warnings about counterfeits on their adverts is not likely to happen. They do not wish to use negatives when trying to promote a product. It would be even less of a consideration in the present economic climate.
Kingston at least have the online verification system to help buyers find out if drives are genuine. They also have listed authorised sellers.
I have seen it mentioned elsewhere that a change in the way the operating system communicates with the drive may be the way forward in detecting fakes. This is not likely to happen in the near future though and still means you have to buy first before finding out.
It seems the only real way forward is to go backwards. The brand names should be the sole sellers for their products with no middle men, just factory direct.
If I can order a fake from China and have it delivered through my door through ebay and paypal, then why not just buy a genuine drive direct from the manafacturer in China or wherever in the world they are based.
The postal system seems to work fine. There are various payment methods available. Online shopping is taking over.
It is possible to review and shop for nearly everything from the home pc and have it delivered to the door from anywhere in the world.
I do not save money by going to my local computer shop. The nearest proper one to me is 45 miles away and has limited range of goods and stock. I get a much better selection online, better prices and I can shop 24 hours a day.(I save the fuel and parking costs too!).
The less links in the chain, the better.
KittyFireFlash said
To Traveller et al.
Hmmm, that can mean many things. Most people fall into the fake flash trap by assuming they have cut a few of the links, and therefore the price. I, also a victim (got a jar full to remind my of my folly) thought that too.
The internet, eBay in particular is wonderful to find items that are hard to find. The post – it reaches the most rural and far away places. Not everyone is near a city. That was the good side of sites such as eBay. Unfortunately, there are those who have undermined the good and taken advantage of eBay’s weaknesses. It expanded too fast, it automated to the N-th degree and does not have enought human beings at the helm. They said this time last year they had 2,000 people who where employeed to fight fraud. It is obvious to all victims they don’t.
Cost cutting – the foolish mantra of our day. The ramifications and impact, well all of us are going to feel it for a long time to come.
Bottom line, you get what you pay for. There is a rock bottom price for things, go below and …I don’t have to say any more. We have all learned.
Yes the nature of nand flash technology is very diffeent. It can be vunerable….but it depends. It is not the flash chip, it is the usb controller chip.
The ability to reprogram devices depends on exploiting the controller chip. This is what we have learned so far. InspectorTech has not made a lot of updates to the fixfakeflash site.
Do you know why? No, not because he is working on other things for the Project. He doesn’t have to. The controller families for fakes are the same. The common chips exploited are in the same families. The fake flash sellers know exactly what chip sets they need to create fake flash.
The operating systems are not designed to expect or troll for false capacity. They never will. Instead they will continue to query the device and accept what the device reports. These days operating systems are bloated enough.
In the case of Brand Names, it is not only flash capacity. It is counterfeiting. Making the item “look” a lot like the real item. The more people pay, the better quality of fake. On ebay we see the poorest quality for Kingston fakes. Low genuine capacity, and if they are DT150 32GB or 64GB, they only look like the genuine item, to a degree. Most don’t even work from the start, cheap reject materials are used inside. Effort was on appearance, nothing more.
Consider This Everyone…
If eBay were to issue warnings at the site and even insert in the listings for flash based technology ie mp players, usb flash drives, memory cards – what would happen?
You would find almost nothing for sell on eBay. FACT!
Why? eBay sellers who sold genuine capacity items have told us they can’t make a profit. Given what the cost of the item is from an honest source, the fees that ebay and paypal will charge. So many have left ebay and in the end selling below cost just to liquidate their stock.
Question.
How many people would chose to buy these items on ebay if the price is only 10% lower than at a local retail outlet? Genuine capacity guaranteed.
I personally can only think that people in remote regions would.
luxurybabi said
Just to let everyone know I have completed refunds to everyone that purchased a flash drive from me.
I certainly have learnt now that being too cheap to refuse isnt always a good thing.
I will in the future steer clear of what seems to be an irresistable bargain.
Thanks for the advice Rockdoctor and yes i was gutted when i realised that i had been caught out by the conmen also.
Oh well thats 1 experience i will avoid in the the future.
Sako i do appreciate you offering to help me with the testing of the drive. but what did anger me was the ridicule over a genuine mistake.
Oh well thanks to everyone involved for alerting me of the mistake i was making, thank god i did not send them to the poor unsuspecting buyers that i sold them to.
SaKo said
Message sent to SUPERSHREE (Selling Kingston 64Gb For £39.50)
Dear supershree,
Hi mate if this Kingston was tested with H2testw (Programme for testing for FAKES and found free on google) Would this flash drive come up as Geniune or a cheap Fake? Just trying to be sure before I buy as there are so many FAKE drives on ebay! If they are fakes please say so and I will look elsewhere 🙂
Cheers
SaKo
– wakosako
Traveler said
chrisshri supershree
New identity being used by chrisshri is supershree. I think we must be getting to this seller.
Same counterfeit trainers, same counterfeit drives. Obviously not happy about fightflashfraud article and comments exposing him for what he is.
SaKo said
Message sent to GREATPRICE* (Selling Kingston 64Gb For £44.99)
Dear GREATPRICE*
Hi mate if this Kingston was tested with H2testw (Programme for testing for FAKES and found free on google) Would this flash drive come up as Geniune or a cheap Fake? Just trying to be sure before I buy as there are so many FAKE drives on ebay! If they are fakes please say so and I will look elsewhere
Cheers
SaKo
SaKo said
Message sent to HOTSALES_2009 (Selling Kingston 64Gb currentley at £1.24)
Dear HOTSALES_2009
Hi mate if this Kingston was tested with H2testw (Programme for testing for FAKES and found free on google) Would this flash drive come up as Geniune or a cheap Fake? Just trying to be sure before I buy as there are so many FAKE drives on ebay! If they are fakes please say so and I will look elsewhere
Cheers
SaKo
Traveler said
shaven_haven
A seller who likes to use private auctions and sell goods always out of packaging and always at such low prices.
If you have bought a drive from this seller, please test and send in your results to the email address given at https://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/report-a-fake/ Your input is welcomed and valued by the team here at sosfakeflash and fightflashfraud. The more evidence gathered on these sellers, the better. This is your chance to help fight against the injustice we all suffer as a result of this ongoing fraud.
SaKo said
Message sent to PCCOMP2009 (Selling Kingston 64Gb currentley at £30.00)
Dear PCCOMP2009
Hi mate if this Kingston was tested with H2testw (Programme for testing for FAKES and found free on google) Would this flash drive come up as Geniune or a cheap Fake? Just trying to be sure before I buy as there are so many FAKE drives on ebay! If they are fakes please say so and I will look elsewhere
Cheers
SaKo
Traveler said
To SaKo:
Did you get any response from chrisshri or supershree by any chance? Could they be identical twins? When an article is printed about one, does the other feel the pain?
SaKo said
@Traveler Lol (I would leave the tipex alone! 🙂 Not not a word from any of the ones I have messaged today! I think in the next lot I send out I will add No reply means there FAKE lol
SaKo
luxurybabi said
Hi i have had an angry buyer that i refunded for one of these flash drives and he insists he doesnt care and still wants me to send it to him. i have tried explaining to him it is fake and he said he dont care, i also tried explaining that it may not have 64gb on it but he still insists.
now anyone on here know what i should do. Looking for advice
SaKo said
@ luxurybabi If the buyer knows it’s FAKE and still want’s it, He might be wanting to try and sell it on at a profit! 😦 I don’t know what fightflashfraud has said to you, But it might be a idea to contact eBay about this buyer and explane whats happend?
Paul
Traveler said
To luxurybabi:
Sorry for giving you a hard time. I forget myself sometimes, as fightflashfraud says, and get carried away with the banter.
For you to come here and publicly protest your innocence and offer your buyers a full refund says a lot for your character.
If you need any further help with this matter, please just ask. I would be glad to help.
It may seem very forward for me to ask, but your input on bringing to our attention the possibility of other sources such as Sunday markets has been an eye opener and it would be extremely useful to find out more about the market seller and his sources. It all helps to warn others and hopefully save others becoming unfortunate victims like your good self.
On the other hand, you may just prefer to give me a right roasting. I would not blame you if you did.
Once again, I apologise for any offence caused.
SaKo said
My partner had a simular problem so she contacted eBay and they made sure the buyer did not leave bad feedback 🙂 (Sometimes eBay come though for us lol)
SaKo
jaz4 said
Update on nadiandian3. He has a paypal account as
Paypal wanted me to get professional evaluation of the unit within 10 days. I was on holiday when they sent the email and I did not get back until after the dead line.
I requested an extention and have just been told that they have closed the case in favor of the seller. They say taht I had failed in sending supporting evidence within the required 10 days, even though again I told them I was on holiday, did they expect me to fly back and get it evaluated. I also said that I can not send the unit in the post due to legality and the engineer also would refuse to do the same so it would take a bit of time to arrange and then arrange a convenient time for the evaluation as it takes over 8 hrs to test the 1mbs 32gb fake drive as it was not the 15Mbs as advertised.
Also he has unregestered from ebay so I cant give him bad feedback, and even told paypal this but I got the following:-
Thank you for contacting PayPal about your claim PP-726-607-481.
After viewing the above claim I can see that this claim has been closed in
the seller favour as you did not reply to PayPal requested for authenticity
documentation within the requested timeframe.
Thank you for using PayPal for your online payment needs.
Yours sincerely,
Arlene
Protection Services Department
PayPal, an eBay Company
No extention, no nothing so I have said I will get the money pulled from the credit card.
Obvuiously they cant get the money back and any payment to me would be out of there own pocket.
its £9.50 but it the principal
SaKo said
Reply from PCCOMP2009
Dear wakosako,
Hi there,
As far as im aware it is genuine. All I can say is that I
am using one myself and have successfully copied over
64gb’s worth of data to it.
Many thanks,
Dan.
– pccomp2009
Randy said
In response to Jaz4 comment about nadiandian3.
My recommendation would be to request a charge back from your credit card company. You may get a refund or not. The results depend on your countries regulations and the credit cards arrangements with Paypal. Also, if you do a reasonable amount of business with the credit card company they will be interested in retaining you as a client (unlike paypal). In some situations the credit card company may request the same documation that paypal requires that the item is “not a described”. There are some post on this blog about Barclay MasterCard and UK credit card chargeback policies.
In North America I have found MasterCard and Amex to side with their customers. Discussion with the customer service agents for these credit card companies indicated that it will be paypal problem to recover the funds from the fake seller and if they cannot that is paypal’s problem. That is the cost of doing business.
Traveler said
To SaKo:
I wonder how well he would get on copying back what he put on. He should try.
Traveler said
To SaKo:
A question to put to Dan.Software, does it work when transferred?
SaKo said
New message to PCCOMP2009
Hi Dan thanks for the responce have you try’d copying the data back off the drive? and does it work? The best test for seeing if the drive is fake is useing H2testw (free and found on google) The reason I am asking is I have bought 2 drives so far and both been fake 😦 And at least doing these tests gives you peace of mind and saves you getting bad feedback 🙂
Cheers
SaKo
SaKo said
JAZZ4 Have you tried ring Paypal? Talking to someone is much better then emails and say your reporting it to the manfacturer and where you bought! eBay are shitting thenselfs at the mo because they might lose the selling of brand names 😉
Traveler said
Another little gang of 64gb DT150 sellers.
evil-nero (3 drives for sale)
smurf-08 (1 drive for sale)
wholesale-empire (1 drive for sale)
mih77 (9 drives for sale)
I see bose headphones often enough in fake Kingston sellers listings. Is it just strange coincidence?
Traveler said
One more 64gbDT150 seller
kishansavani (3 drives for sale)
Traveler said
An ebay member has reported back on several sellers. These are direct responses from the sellers.
mih77 (9 drives for sale)………… “it is not orginal pen drive”
wholesale-empire (1 drive for sale) ..”its been reg with other member”
smurf-08 (1 drive for sale)………. “brand new unopened so checking will be hard to carry out”
This was in reply to detailed instruction on how to verify, link provided, and possibility of drives being counterfeit.
Traveler said
Like seller greatprice* (down to 1 drive available), these sellers have chosen to use private listings for their exceptionally cheap, possibly counterfeit, 64gb DT150’s. That way you can not see what was bought and for how much.
kishansavani (3 drives for sale) Private listing
evil-nero (3 drives for sale) Private listing
razor700 (3 drives for sale) Private listing
Traveler said
me-eshop
This seller is offering Kingston DT400 128gb drives for under £100.
Use toolhaus.org to see how seriously bad the feedback has been for this seller previously.
Anders said
Bought a 32Gb Kingston thumb drive of off ebay, the prize led me to belive there was something fishy but my curiosity made me go ahead with the deal.
Sure enough, is was a fake.
Media has filled up earlier than expected!
In the beginning there were 32735 MByte free, but only
10251 MByte could be written.
Warning: Only 32735 of 32736 MByte tested.
Writing speed: 0.99 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
The listing stated a lot of 10 thumb drives for sale but after I opted to buy one the listing dissapeared (so that I could not leave negative feedback).
Seller id is ‘ruyuyi20080808’ out of china.
Seller is either the victim of a wholesale fraud or very aware of the state of this listing.
Offered partial refund when I filed a claim through paypal, I’ll update as its still an open claim.
SaKo said
Dear mih77,
Mate I have been fighting sellers of fake kingston drives for a while now! I just bought the cheapest genuine kingston 64gb drive in the uk @£89 do you really think yours is genuine? is it worth loseing your good feedback over a few £? Is it worth being put on the fake sellers black list? I am trying to help here mate! Your choice.
– wakosako
SaKo said
Reply from MIH77
Dear wakosako,
hi
it is not orginal
– mih77
SaKo said
My Reply
Dear mih77,
In other words it’s a fake that will lose peoples data then! How would you feel if someone lost all there familey pictures by putting them on a drive from you? Do you realise how these drives work? They are 1gb drives hacked to show 64gb they over right the data so you think it’s working ok (untill it’s to late!) Please do some research and save yourself a lot of hassel
Paul
– wakosako
SaKo said
Honest guy!
Dear mih77,
Respect for ending the listing you seem a honest seller! Thanks for understanding 🙂 I have been a victim of these fakes and it’s not nice 😦
Again thank you
Paul
– wakosako
Fake-Items-Stopper said
Thanks to Traveler for passing this one onto me 🙂
Dear sirflexxx,
Mate I have been fighting sellers of fake kingston drives for a while now! I just bought the cheapest genuine kingston 64gb drive in the uk @£92 do you really think yours is genuine? When Kingston do NOT make a 64Gb or a 128Gb in a DT100! (Try doing your homework and you will see!) is it worth loseing your good feedback over a few £? Is it worth being put on the fake sellers black list? Is it worth having your details passed onto tradeing standards? I am trying to help here mate! Your choice.
– fake-items-stopper
Fake-Items-Stopper said
Dear razor700,
Mate I have been fighting sellers of fake kingston drives for a while now! I just bought the cheapest genuine kingston 64gb drive in the uk @£92 do you really think yours is genuine? Is it worth loseing your good feedback over a few £? Is it worth being put on the fake sellers black list? Do yourself a favour and do your homework and check yours out! I am trying to help here mate! Your choice.
– fake-items-stopper
Fake-Items-Stopper said
Razor700 Has now removed the FAKE item 🙂
Thanks for ending the item, Nice to see your a good honest seller 🙂
All The Best
FIS
Fake-Items-Stopper said
Reply From sirflexxx
Dear fake-items-stopper,
Hi, yeah i no there are a lot of fakes going around, but we dont have any part of them, and Kingston do make a 64gb and 128gb but it depends what country you get them from, I used to think the same until I done some hardcore researching.
We also like to help beat the fakers on some of the global trading sites we put ad’s on to warn people about them…
– sirflexxx
Fake-Items-Stopper said
Message sent back!
Dear sirflexxx,
Hi I respect what your saying but the 64Gb & 128Gb DT100’s that we have seen out of China & HongKong have all been tested as 100% FAKE’s For peace of mind and your rep please test with H2testw (Free programme for testing flash drive’s and found free on Google)
Good Luck
FIS
– fake-items-stopper
Fake-Items-Stopper said
Well after a fair bit of fighting sirflexxx has canceld his items on eBay and is going to check them 🙂
Luxurybabi said
Great news guys, as a result of your vigilance on the fake flash drives.
Today Ebay refunded all fees to me and also congratulated me for honesty and integrity. They told me that some of the buyers had emailed in and stated that i was very quick in refunding their money and also that i was very remorseful to them for what the trouble i had put them to.
Howzat for a happy ending to the fake flash crap.
Well off to be d as have to be up a 4 for the market tomorrow morning, please keep up the good work guys…
thanks for the grillings and the sympathy lol
Juan said
I purchaced two 8gb for $18 total from ebay from jojacsales Item number: 360171421156 i tested them and they were fake
The media is likely to be defective.
972.8 MByte OK (1992492 sectors)
7.0 GByte DATA LOST (14749908 sectors)
Details:7.0 GByte overwritten (14749871 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
18.5 KByte corrupted (37 sectors)
25.5 KByte aliased memory (51 sectors)
First error at offset: 0x0000000000ca58f8
Expected: 0xb7589b0bc3839921
Found: 0xf0f0f0f0f0f0f0f0
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 12.5 MByte/s
Reading speed: 16.5 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
KittyFireFlash said
Hi Luxurybabi
Happy ending are nice.
As for the grilling, the team is committed to try and drag as many eBay sellers who might be victims away from this battle as they can.
Contrary to what some readers might think, we are not out to roast every eBay seller.
One of the first articles released at this site was:
The article was written long before you listed anything for sale, but I think it describes you perfectly, Luxurybabi.
You have demonstrated what an honest seller does on eBay, as difficult and painful as it might have been. You are not the first, nor the last (we hope).
To All Readers!
Not every eBay seller who has sold fake flash is a fraudster, some are just like you, stumbled into this terrible nightmare. You should have no difficultly in determining who is the shark and who is the victim. The sellers actions and behavior will reveal all.
There are many sellers who will never make it to the eBay fake flash sellers list. Why? Because when they are detected early enought it is possible for them to stop selling the fakes and refund buyers with haste. There are cases when a person reports in and when we investigate, we notice the seller does not fit the profile. Effort is made to dialogue with the seller and the victim(s) offline.
Unfortunately we can not reach all sellers in time and many ignore us (a 99.999% guarantee of fraud in the making confirmed too many times when data comes in against the seller). eBay messaging quota’s is also a serious obstacle.
Luxurybabi, I am not sure if you know the history behind the FrankenFlash Project. It was co-founded. By eBay victims and by eBay sellers of Fake Flash. Yes, eBay sellers of Fake Flash! Only with slight difference, they were victims and they just like you, refunded every single buyer and apologized.
It is important for readers to know this. The project was not founded only by victim buyers, but also victim sellers!
Luxurybabi your behavior is exactly the kind eBay really needs. It reminds us of a bygone era on eBay. The eBay we loved! The eBay we want back!
We will fight, we will rant, we will rave and we will do everything we can to help victims, rescue them and fight this fraud any and everyway we can.
We are also seeing what appears to be improvement on the part of eBay. We do not like seeing the listing information disappear from won pages when sellers are suspended, it makes it harder for victims to pursue their claims. There are reports of eBay actually helping victims to expidite their claims with PayPal. This is a positive sign and we would like to see them increase this assistence. PayPal, is real problem now for victims and too many are frauded a second time with paypal refusing to refund, even though they know very well that the seller claimed against has many reports against him.
The FrankenFlash Project will continue to monitor eBay’s behavior in addressing the issues. Let us hope they will continue in positive actions and join whole heartedly to purge eBay of these fraudulent sellers damaging it’s reputation. It’s a difficult challenge, we know that after 19 months of battle. We are aware that eBay is monitoring our sites, reading and learning (along with everyone else).
For eBay to take the time to single out and thank Luxurybabi for his honesty in addressing his situation, is exactly the kind of behavior needed. This kind of attention, made eBay in the first place, it can bring eBay back to it’s origins. Revive the spirit of what made it such a great place to shop….
kittyfireflash said
Hi Juan,
Please make sure to report in using the https://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/report-a-fake/ tab. We can’t record you in the database or issue an alert against the seller without the information.
jojacsales sold in in multiple item auction listings. The packaging is all to familar for fakes. In fact any usb flash drive sold in this packaging is to be considered suspect!
Two 8GB for only $16 US? This is an impossible price for genuine capacity. Your results show a 1GB flash drive chip. It is also a very bad flash drive chip, defective with a lot of bad sectors – substandard – a factory reject.
The buyers of jojacsales need to be warned. People need to contact any buyers who left positive feedback to warn them to test! They risk data loss. This usb flash drive is not defective, it is a fake with false capacity, the usb controller chip has been digitally alerted.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360171421156&category=51071
Please report in Juan, so an alert can be issued to warn people.
Fake-Items-Stopper said
Dear effendiwakeel,
Hi mate I have been fighting fake sellers for about 2 years now and there is no such thing as a 360Gb Kingston! Try doing some reaserch and you will find out you have been had! Check my feedback you will see i have got rid of a lot of fake sellers that did not beleave my warnings! Hope you decide to check your listing for yourself 🙂 Take care
FIS
– fake-items-stopper
Fake-Items-Stopper said
Reply
Dear fake-items-stopper,
Thank you very much for such a nice information on time.
I will immediately check this and do my best to get my money back from my seller.
also will file complain against him.
Many thanks again
Regards
Wakeel Effendi
– effendiwakeel
Traveler said
arvindhbishop
This seller needs their head read. Despite advice and good information they have carried on with auctions for 256gb DT101’s and 256gb Corsair Flash Voyagers. They are intent at fraud despite the cost to others.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Kingston-USB-DataTraveler-256GB-USB-1st-on-Ebay-Bargain_W0QQitemZ260456311865QQihZ016QQcategoryZ108982QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem