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ian said
Hello
my final reply beore i raise a greivenace is below. Whatcools are the company/people.
32 gb was not really a 32 gb and is about 7.7 gb , full of errors.
You can inlcude my name in any publications in this dispute.
Many Thanks
Ian
Hello
Sorry I forgot to say this was his reply
Dear igibbwiz,
Thank you for your letter.
So sorry for all the inconvenience caused.
Please do not leave negative feedback or open dispute first.
We are willing to refund the payment to you,.
Could you please kindly help me to ship the item back . Since this item was made by my manufactory.So we really don’t know this affair at all.
They would made big fun on us.
Without the proof .my manufactory refuse to pay that loss.
Hope you can understand my situation,
Waiting for your quick response.
Regards
WC*
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From: Ian Gibb [mailto:igibbwiz@yahoo.co.uk]
Sent: 28 September 2008 11:50
To: ‘eddiejharkin@btinternet.com’; ‘fakeflashebay@gmail.com’
Subject: FW: Message from eBay Member Regarding Item #220277441535
Hello both
This is the status of my issues as of this morning, I had a request to send the item back as you indicated.
You can see from my response below who my contract is with etc as I stated. My wifes job is law.
Thank you both for you informative emails. It makes me feel uncomfortable as I never have had issues with anyone like this before, and I consider my self to fair and reasonable, and I would have sent the unit back had it not have been for your help.
Tomorrow night for sure I will raise a grievance with ebay and paypal if I do not get a positive response. I just wanted to give the chap 1 more chance to do the right thing,
I will keep in touch with you both about my progress, and again thank you for your help
Ian
From: eBay Member: igibbwiz [mailto:member@ebay.co.uk]
Sent: 28 September 2008 11:44
To: igibbwiz@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Message from eBay Member Regarding Item #220277441535
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Dear whatcools,
**********************
Hello
thank you for the email reply.
Unfortuanetly I can not resend as it is illegal in the uk to send counterfeit goods.
Having said that my contractual agreement was and is with you and your company not you supplier so i there for request you resend the money to me.
If you arrange for collection and pay for this service then I am happy to hand the item to the courier as then this is your reposnisibiliy and your request for the goods to be shipped, but I have to check this with my lawyer first that I am not breaking the law.
But this should not cause any delays in you re crediting my paypal account. You will see from my feedback that I have never issues with any supplier,
I wait to hear from you , however please be sure that tomorow night (monday night) i will raise the grevieance with ebay and paypal , if you do not agree to this and inform me the process has started in recrediting my account.
Many Thanks
Ian
ps you could send me another one as long as you check it first
– igibbwiz
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Ivan said
Hello,
I bought a total of 32 16GB flash drives from ebay. Because I want to give them away to my family, at that price. I was wondering about the sellers:
aaaiphone
yyyshop2008
yingping_888
haoyunbeijing-2008
qiongzhuzhijia
Thanks!
kittyfireflash said
Ivan we will be contacting you. The only seller we have some evidence on that we are investigating is qiongzhuzhijia.
Not only that, an eBayer sent a very disturbing response from this seller which we need to examine carefully for it’s validity. The seller threatened him with “death”. The details are not known yet. However we have two investigated fakes for this seller see the link on the left column called
eBay Fakes – Sellers
you can scroll to the seller and click on his name to launch a tool to see his negative feeback.
FakeStopper said
Hi Ivan,
Let me tell you if you brought from ebay likely chances of getting a fake drive is over 98%. This is a sad sad figure especially for the dirve you getting and especially they are found mainland asia.
I ask a seller a question, regarding his 32gb and 64gb to be ture capacity and guess what this seller responsed:
“Dear friend, Thanks for your question. These are 2GB upgraded memory. It means that the available memory is 2GB, but it shows 32GB or 64GB in the computer. All of Dhgate sellers are selling upgraded usb drive. Frankly there isn’t any real 32G or 64G memory card in China, the biggest memory is just 16GB. Please feel free to contact us if any further question. Best regards, Customer Servics”
Look how sad this is. And I still do not understand why ebay aren’t closing those fake seller account down.
Ivan said
I see… I’m glad that I only bought 1 item from qiongzhuzhijia. He said that he has shipped the item and he gave me the tracking number. As soon as I get I will check it and see if it’s fake or real! The other question is, will it be possible to get my money back if those drives are fake? Through ebay or paypal?
Ivan said
Oh oh! I might have been already ripped off. Take a look at yingping_888 profile. 1 negative, 0 positive! He might be selling fake drives! And I bought like 13 from him maybe more…
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=yingping_888&&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller&iid=220296718815&sspagename=VIP:feedback:2:us
FakeStopper said
You can get your money back through paypal if you paid it from there provided it within the time frame. I won’t be surprise if they are fake and from mainland asia. From the response I got from the seller it likely anything above 8GB are fake.
If you need the guide to process your refund, please go to guide and email to that address.
kittyfireflash said
Please see the Flash Drive Education category. The 101 course will be a hands on exploration of what manufacturers offer in China for anyone interested. See for yourself. Don’t let sellers get away with saying it is the manufacturers fault…
mad teacher said
Readers of this page may find this interesting. Have a look at the Ebay listing for item 310092745474 – seller ID mallaussie – a buy it now at £30. This seller put the following in the listing:
Q: Is this real 32 Gb or fake one?
A: Yes, we did test it to be able to store 32 Gb, e.g. 8 movies of 4 gb into the pen drive, at a good speed. However, if used some testing software to test it, it may suggest 8 gb etc. If you believe your eyes, please feel free to bid. If you rather believe some softwares than your own eyes, please do NOT bid, and you would not find a ‘real’ 32 gb in the market at such a good price anyway. Thank you!
Says everything you need to know, I think: basically, I think it says “yes, you idiot, of course it is a fake; but if you choose to fall for my weasil words, I will happily take your money from you!”
I am filing a report to Ebay as follows:
……………………………………………………………………..
The seller has listed the item as a 32GB flash drive – however the answer to a question (shown in the listing) reveals to anyone who is fully literate (both in language and IT) that the listing is fraudulent:
Q: Is this real 32 Gb or fake one?
A: Yes, we did test it to be able to store 32 Gb, e.g. 8 movies of 4 gb into the pen drive, at a good speed. However, if used some testing software to test it, it may suggest 8 gb etc. If you believe your eyes, please feel free to bid. If you rather believe some softwares than your own eyes, please do NOT bid, and you would not find a ‘real’ 32 gb in the market at such a good price anyway. Thank you!
The seller seems to be trying to appear to be based in Australia, though actually based in Hong Kong. Inexperienced Ebayers could be misled.
The seller is keeping things private – usually a sign of fraud when selling flash drives.
……………………………………………………………..
Any comments?
FakeStopper said
What alot of bull s**t with that answer (sorry with the language) Just laugh my head off with that response.
Basically the seller is saying yes I can put up to 32gb, but after 8gb you can’t open the file! woohoo..so my 24gb of data can’t be open! Hahaha that is just bulls**t!
I really want to see ebay doing something about it. I email then on 19 October, and yet till now I still haven’t heard reply regarding why ebay continue to allow fakes usb drive.
Ed said
I’d been interested to find out if this 16Gb flash drive from an Amazon UK marketplace seller is genuine or fake – it certainly looks like one of the fake ones.
Ivan said
Wow! The sellers aaaiphone and yyyshop2008 are now unregistered users! I gotta start refunding my money with paypal!
kittyfireflash said
To Ed and your link in amazon.com, it is very hard to tell, there are no comments yet for the 16GB model. Several for the 8GB one and people are pleased. The issue is, the price for 16GB is very low – almost too good to be true. I’d wait to see comments from buyers.
Only, unlike eBay, you can’t contact buyers to “Share” the buying experience to find out what they think if they test and in daily usage. Odd as this might seem, it is one of the very good things about eBay! You can share and trade experiences on a product.
Rebwar said
I purchased a 8GB flash memory it is fake and not working at all.
nembokid said
Hi,
I do not know if the flashpens offered thru amazon are fake or not, but I have bought thru ebay and a seller from uk (see http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220298879620&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=012) ,at a price equal or lower, a few 16GB USB Flashpens and they are not fake, they are not the fastest on the markets but they are not fake.
The seller sent me also a quality report analysis made by an independent institute, and offer full warranty and full refund if not satisfied.
nembokid said
Hi again, sorry I forgot to say that when I was stating that those flashpens were good, is because I tested them thru 2 test programs, not only the well known H2testw.
bye
Ivan said
I recivied my first flash out of 33 that I purchased! MADE A HUGE MISTAKE! the first one i checked is already fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 32 more fake coming~!!!!
Dennis said
To Ivan:
Someone said (it was in Russian, I will try to translate):
“If you can correct your mistake then you haven’t made a mistake yet.”
Try to correct your mistakes, man. I believe that you can.
mad teacher said
Most UK sellers seem to be genuine – but wherever you buy flash from you should test!
stevenb9275 said
just a word of warning for your members the seller best2you886 is a conman he sold me a hacked 4gb stick made to look like a 16 gb he is still selling them now
H2testw results
The media is likely to be defective.
3.9 GByte OK (8325352 sectors)
11.6 GByte DATA LOST (24409880 sectors)
Details:11.6 GByte overwritten (24409880 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
0 KByte corrupted (0 sectors)
2 KByte aliased memory (4 sectors)
First error at offset: 0x00000000fe11d000
Expected: 0x00000000fe11d000
Found: 0x00000000fe11c800
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 6.40 MByte/s
Reading speed: 16.3 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
Alex said
Dear Community! Please give me an advice.
When I make a claim to PayPal for refund they said:
To continue with the investigation of your complaint, we must request documentation to support your claim that the item is not authentic. Please obtain a document from an unbiased, third-party, such as a dealer,appraiser, or an organization that is qualified in the area of the item in question (other than yourself), which clearly identifies the item as not authentic. The document must specifically state how the item received differs from an authentic item and must include a detailed explanation of
how the person evaluating the item determined that it is not authentic. If possible, the document should include a serial number, and must be on letterhead that includes the name, address, and phone number of the business or organization so that PayPal may contact them if necessary.
Can you make me such document? What should I do?
Regards!
KittyFireFlash said
Hi Alex,
Please see the following comments:
to help you. If you read on PayPal at this site you will quickly learn you are not dealing with a person or persons. But a mindless robotic emailer. They just have people fill out email templates with keywords. It is cheaper and does not require hiring a person with intelligence. It is becoming a favorite game now to avoid refunding people.
It is not clear if you got this response from your original paypal claim or not. Please research the site, many members have left information on what you can do. We also have information in the left menu under paypal claims.
To get a refund means having to fight. Some got their refunds quickly, some have had 3 month battles and a sea of emails. Much depends on whether you want to let Paypal and the fake flash seller keep your money….
Geoff said
Hi, just received a SONY MICRO VAULT 64G from ebay UK seller ads0s0. My suspicions where aroused when I tried to copy files over and got corruption etc. Finally looked up on google to check this drive and came up with your website. (Why did I not look before??? I didn’t used to be so gullible , SONY only do up to 16GB at present), have downloaded the checking software and am busy going through it now. Please advise any potential buyers of this ebayer. As he has at least 10 sales to his name, but and this is what fooled me has sold completely different goods so has good feedback, although only 26 at this time (22nd Dec 2008). Not sure if the seller is legit or just clever. Please advice.
Thanks.
KittyFireFlash said
We’ve sent an email directly to you Geoff with advice – also next steps for your case. To issue an alert to warn buyers we will need the info described in the “Report a Fake” tab.
Eveyone, UK seller – ads0s0 used private auctions. Also in the listings said:
You don’t have to bid with a seller in the Orient for a fake flash drive, they are just as easily found in your home country.
Frank said
Add some more Fake Sellers, bought 5 flash drive and everyone of them is a fake. Ebay and Paypal doing nothing to help. Over 23 days since I started filing claims and these sellers are still active on Ebay:
shopwithmela (selling 16GB fake flash drives and 8GB MP3 that are only 1GB). jingpinwu688 (selling fake 16GB flash drives that are only 2GB).
changshengzhubao666 (selling fake 16GB that are only 4GB).
jianxiaoyong77@126.com who was selling fake 16GB and is not on ebay any more actually sent me a reffund.
Where is the sign up sheet for the class action law suit against Ebay and PayPal.
игорь said
PnP Device ID: VID = 1221 PID = 3234
Serial Number: 2008122100060859
Revision: 2.20
Device Type: Standard USB device – USB2.0 High-Speed
Chip Vendor: micov
Chip Part-Number: MXT8208
Product Vendor: (N/A)
Product Model: (N/A)
нашел програму к этой флешке UdTools1.0.4.6_20081010 что то сдела с флеш теперь он ее не видет этой программой но когда встовляю происходит звук подключения и в деспетчере устройст ее видно а в мой комп не видно и в програме тоже флешка на 16gb я могу ее еще востоновить
chris roberts said
ebay seller. rongcle fake 16gb pen drive.
tested with H2testw. actually 2gb. i have filed with ebay and paypal and await with not much hope. uk sellers only from now
many thanks
chris
ramesh chander said
Sir
i have 32 GB flash drive with belown mentiond detail
URGENT HELP REQUIRD
Device Name: +[F:]+USB Mass Storage Device(Hisun Flash Disk USB Device)
PnP Device ID: VID = 2008 PID = 2168
Serial Number: 2008112009201310
Revision: 2.80
Device Type: Standard USB device – USB2.0 High-Speed
Chip Vendor: (No match record)
Chip Part-Number: (No match record)
Product Vendor: Hisun
Product Model: Flash Disk
Tools on Web: (N/A)
kittyfireflash said
HI Remesh
If it is possible, please with care, open the drive if you can. Then look for a little square chip. That is the controller. Write down what it says. Then look for the long chip, that is the flash drive. Write down what it says. The most important information is the controller chip. Based on that you can find a software program to help you. See the site http://fixfakeflash.wordpress.com/ afterwards. Look to see if there is information. The main post can help you.
Some time they reprogram with false VID and PID. This why in your case you must carefully try to open the drive and find out what it is. This will help you to see if there is a solution. The most important information is the controller chip, not the flash drive. Reflash programs especially if most recent will detect the flash drive chip you have.
Let us know your results.
geoff said
ebay know this is going on. they sent me warning on 31-1-09 telling me not to buy, pity cos i bought on 20-1-09. are we doing a mass court case against ebay or are we going to get then on tv in watchdog
regards
Kerry Bradbury said
Hi can anyone help me I am trying to fix:
Device Name: +[F:]+USB Mass Storage Device(USB 2.0 USB Device)
PnP Device ID: VID = 058F PID = 6387
Serial Number: 5BDC0177
Revision: 8.00
Device Type: Standard USB device – USB2.0 High-Speed
Product Vendor: USB
Product Model: 2.0
Can anyone help me with a link to fix this flash drive please.
Thank you as I am pulling my hair out xx
Bond James Bond said
In my Kingston Data Traveller 32GB when I tried to format, its shown Windows is unable to format the disk.
And when I tried for formatting by Hp Windows Format Utility for USB Drive Key its shown Write Protected.
Please help for correct it.
Shown msg by chipgenius.
Device Name: +[G:]+USB Mass Storage Device(Generic Flash Disk 2.0 USB Device)
PnP Device ID: VID = 5136 PID = 4678
Serial Number: 5&&24BE2444&&0&&2
Revision: 2.30
Device Type: Standard USB device – USB2.0 High-Speed
Chip Vendor: micov
Chip Part-Number: MW6208
Product Vendor: (N/A)
Product Model: U
Tools on Web: http://bbs.mydigit.cn/read.php?tid=72332
Thanks
Elias said
I already reported arifqammar on ebay and paypal.I contacted with the seller and he says to send it back and he will send me full refund.Then I checked his ebay items and it was nothing for auction on.So he is going to delete his account sooner or later and of course he won’t refund me for real.Should I wait for ebay to reply my report?Should I leave him a bad feedback now?
What should I do?
Tnx for your patience
KittyFireFlash said
To Elias
Make sure you file a claim with paypal if you have not. Also, do you still have the packaging for the item? The envelop? Compare it with the address you may have received from paypal. 99% of the time the addresses don’t match or are not the same.
The paypal ones are usually wrong and incomplete. Designed by the fake flash seller to “punish” an ebayer for filing a claim. Naturally when a eBayer breaks the postal laws of their country by returning the fake/counterfeit it goes to never never land and the fake flash seller can for once tell the truth:
“I did not receive it!”
So no refund. The ebayer fake flash victim is even poorer now.
You may have to fight PayPal and eBay and email them as much as they email you. They know only too well about the problem but like the fake flash sellers they want to keep the money. Sad.
If you have the addresses on the seller send them in or post them at the site for all to see.
elias said
The address on the envelope is Huzhni 10A KB52,Lugansk 91006 Ukraine
paypal doesnt mention any address.
Ebay just Lugansk, Lugansk, Ukraine
matthew steele said
i have a discovered a massive ring of not only counterfiets but they are all connected giving themselves feedback – this is the email i sent to ebay a few days ago some of these users are powers sellers & it just so happens that i recieved a 32gb of them last weeks & it was a 4gb – i dont know who is the leader here but its obvious its 1 person behind it all
i sent a mail to you earlier regading 2 sellers hellopetpet & maya.city as they are selling counterfeit goods & misusing the feedback system as all sellers were leaving feedback directly after they bought – after more investiation i have found that all of the feedback members are involved in what seems to be a massive ring – totally abusing ebay & they are all leaving feedback for one another too gain high feedback so they can sell there counterfeits so here is all the users potentially involved
barcookbie, jordandix, reggiearthur, replaybaypay, wangtigerteam, cocoleenut, staryknight555, busdrivenac, rocketstepf, chrismasonma, gogoarmstrong, maloneymar, webchalie, bobbybrown300, madhermanson , barrymark33 , hahahamatt , mmmillermmm , dogdonaldog , noahdrive , davidsonlop , foyleaa , mikecandun, tnmagazine , woddybrown, yummiewong666, meimeiyiyiyi, keykeywest , babyjohnsonbon , hhhhouse147, bellrosemary, mandygirl868, sillygal666 , amrysee , samson4328, moreandmore789 , johnson3843 , fiona-1986 , terrence6720 , bright9382 , babyfree45 , bigjohnjohn2, bonebone539 , lorryhome4109 , kittygirl6419 , maymaybe2938 , adams0574 , yuenchou574 , leungwai293, hahabuy2923 , janicebaby293 , stephen10293 , sammi90445 , carlosbaute9, tommy2939 , moonmoon3848 , taisound2495 , timstockdale6 , kittywaiwah23, amoslee787 , johnmiller8818 , nicolalongfellow3315 , ralfekenwyn753 , bamberchorley6431 , kyleilly, morridavid, coverseemark, dwightheart, jordandix, barcookbie , reggiearthur , replaybaypay , wangtigerteam , maloneymar , hahahamatt , mmmillermmm, dogdonaldog , noahdrive , davidsonlop , foyleaa , mikecandun , cocoleenut, staryknight555 , busdrivenac , barrymark33, keyonpencil, hall of sell, elect-republic, simply-item, remote-purchase, click.your.mouse, low-cost-area, golden pen, cool.park, crispy garlic, vanilla-marketm ren-ren-buy, creative_square, hellobonnie02345, crossing-deal, ralfekenwyn753, hall.of.sell,rockerstepf, chrismasonma, webcharlie, bobbybrown300, madhermanson, taisound2495
FakeStopper said
Matthew
That’s so true, I just click and investigate the first seller “barcookbie” and I cannot believe how many connection he has with so many other sellers.
This is a TRUE scam! It an abusive to ebay feedback system. Why can’t ebay even figure this out! It just took me less than 2 minute and you can find so many connection!
To eBay
Please WAKE UP and listen. Don’t sit on you butt and stare at the computer! Do something and actually monitor your site. Don’t just sit and count all the fees you earning! You are just creating a SCAM site!! DO something about it instead of pretending and close your eyes and wishing we will leave you alone! No way are we going to do that! We can’t stand the fraustration people have over your “so-call” policy and your action in dealings with fraudster! We can’t even stand you sister company “Paypal” either with holding the money for as long as they can! This is not ethical and is not how people do business!
WAKE UP and LISTEN!
matthew steele said
Uks Watchdog have now got hold of my story so im hoping this gets exposed next week – cant wait to see what ebay have to say
matthew steele said
maya.city hard at work yet again creating new accounts here are some new gang members
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matthew steele said
address for hellopetpet
:Room 1022, 10/F, Pang Ching Court, Wong Tai Sin, Hong Kong
matthew steele said
so we had hellopetpet selling the 32gb fake transcend stick last week – i have now found golden_pen( 74) Item number: 270356203252 selling this fake stick – pls see my gang list above & guess whose there yes its golden_pen – i dont think ill ever buy from ebay again – pre warned them last week of my list – they have now given me a suspension for 3days for all my efforts – thanks ebay – lets just see how many buyers will get scammed by golden_pen..
KittyFireFlash said
What?
Matt, you toil away doing their work and your reward is a suspension?
The project has been saying for a long time, that eBay is insincere. Since spring of 2008 people have tried emailing, calling eBay. Over and over again.
It is amazing! They don’t go after the suspect sellers but they do have time to tie eBay members to the stake and light the match for trying to help and to warn eBay.
They can be mean and vindictive. Let’s face it – they don’t want the truth to be known.
Most people when they first begin to warn eBay actually have faith and belief that they will address. Saddly they soon learn the ugly truth. If a person persists, or moves things to the next level as you did (make it simple – spoon feed them a list of obvious suspects) – their little claws come out.
eBay is determined to protect her little brood of fake flash sellers. We’ve done a lot of reflecting recently and researching.
See https://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2009/02/26/ebay-fake-flash-sellers-of-mp-players-usb-flash-drives-memory-cards-about-their-ids/
There is a lot of money involved. And to get into China, eBay may have mortgaged whatever little soul she had. As a result she may be dancing on hot coals. She can not afford to offend the big powersellers over there. She can no longer ignore the project. What to do? So it seems eBay is lashing out and of course in the WRONG DIRECTION!
ethics and money don’t mix well – and for eBay from our observations, those two words can not be in the same sentence.
Your wanting to vote with your feet – exit eBay for good is not new. So many victims have done just that.
Everyone
We published an article on Private Auctions, and there is a section “medicinal value or psychological value fake flash device acquistion under Private Auctions on eBay has had so far” It pretty much summarizes what we have seen the effects to be on members.
matthew steele said
I have been in touch with the General Manager of Transcend today as I was not getting any conttact from there website – The general Manager has asked for a mail today so here it is ill keep my eyes peeled now just to see if anything is done especially the four listings that are active
To the general Manager
I would like to bring to your attention a massive scam that’s happening on Ebay at this time – My Ebay username is Matt.Steele & I bought a 32gb transcend V30 (green) stick 2 weeks ago from a seller in Hong Kong – this was sold as genuine by the way – The seller is able to fake the stick into thinking the stick is 32gb but after testing I soon discovered the stick was not 32gb & with a tool called H2testw 1.4 – I found it was only a 3.4gb stick – so I left bad feedback & have now claimed via Paypal & notified your worldwide offices 2 weeks ago..
I have now uncovered a massive ring of ebayers selling this fraudulent stick & notified ebay of my findings well over a week ago but they have put a suspension on my account as they obviously want these sellers to continue selling which is why I have called your offices today as action needs to be taken
I would like you to see the following item numbers on ebay as these are current – I have also reported to ebay these items but they are still up for sale
Item number: 170309659939
Item number: 270356203252
Item number: 270356662172
Item number: 220374918824
now we have so many sellers in this ring that we have a few that are active at present but there are likely to be another 90 or so waiting to sell – I just feel a shame as people are leaving good feedback because there computer says its 32gb when they put stick in but as I say its clever software . I have told UK watchdog my story as Ebay do not want to contact me or even look at this problem but I have managed to try & warn others on the following link pls pls read
now if you want to stop this from happening you must look at this mail I sent ebay on 6th march it lists the fraudsters which I posted on https://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/contact-us/#comment-1089
1. matthew steele said
March 6, 2009 at 18:16
i have a discovered a massive ring of not only counterfiets but they are all connected giving themselves feedback – this is the email i sent to ebay a few days ago some of these users are powers sellers & it just so happens that i recieved a 32gb of them last weeks & it was a 4gb – i dont know who is the leader here but its obvious its 1 person behind it all
i sent a mail to you earlier regading 2 sellers hellopetpet & maya.city as they are selling counterfeit goods & misusing the feedback system as all sellers were leaving feedback directly after they bought – after more investiation i have found that all of the feedback members are involved in what seems to be a massive ring – totally abusing ebay & they are all leaving feedback for one another too gain high feedback so they can sell there counterfeits so here is all the users potentially involved
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1. matthew steele said
March 10, 2009 at 20:23
so we had hellopetpet selling the 32gb fake transcend stick last week – i have now found golden_pen( 74) Item number: 270356203252 selling this fake stick – pls see my gang list above & guess whose there yes its golden_pen – i dont think ill ever buy from ebay again – pre warned them last week of my list – they have now given me a suspension for 3days for all my efforts – thanks ebay – lets just see how many buyers will get scammed by golden_pen..
so I have got a suspension & unable to contact other memebers who have got conned by this fraud – but am hoping you have the power to shut it down
if you want to call me ild be happy to talk
p.s have also tried to get these sticks banned on Ebay Vero programme but ebay are turning there back on me!!
matt steele
matthew steele said
I have now made contact with an Ebayer who bought a 16gb card Item number: 270351208316 & he confirmed to me running the h2testw that his stick is a fake 4gb – seller was Maya.City.. so we now have the evidence – unfortuatly this buyer had left good feedback before realising his mistake – the buyer also advises that he has reported the fake on SOS –
FakeStopper said
Matt,
I am very ashame of ebay action. I strongly cannot understand why they suspended your account for the sack that you were only raising an issues and warn them about suspected sellers. Why are they contradicting themselves, they advertise to be safe and if member suspected anything, to report to ebay straight away. And yet you did that, you contacted ebay and let them know your suspision. Why did they take it the other way? This can only proof they are only keen to hide the evidence as long as they can.
What was their reason behind the suspension?
matthew steele said
they advised that i had breached their policy – i have tried to get more info but they have not come back to me – i must have sent ebay 10-20 mails & not a peep out of them – my suspension was only 3 days so ill check later as it should be back..
matthew steele said
Maya.City No Longer Registered – are ebay listening or has he not payed his bill??
matthew steele said
yes i think the banning has finally started
click.your.mouse no longer registered
creative_square no longer registered
hall.of.sell no longer registered
ren-ren-buy no longer registered
golden_pen no longer registered
maya.city no longer registered
Mary said
The item I bought from ren-ren-buy this morning has disappeared from my won list. I paid for it straight away like I usually do. Now I don’t think I will get it and it seems it’s probably a fake anyway. What should I do? All his listings have gone but he still seems to be a member so ebay haven’t de-registered him.
matthew steele said
So my theory is that my mail to transcend has had the needed action – but i will find out tommorrow when i speak to there gen,manager – not the best of news for me as it seems the active listing of transcend products are no more & all offenders are no longer registered – but as hellopetpet had no active listings today i believe no action was taken so we may have got rid of a few but my list is still at large with some of the others i named in not only a feedback ring but also getting them by fake sticks – I will now work overtime to get the rest rid so i can concentrate on other potential set ups