Paypal Disputes – The 6 Commandments For Dealing with Ebay Fake Flash Sellers

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Never attempt direct communication with an eBay Seller of Fake Flash drives. Many eBayers have been tricked, blackmailed and frauded even further by innocently contacting the seller. Fakestopper, one of the most senior and experienced members of SOSFakeFlash explains why the only place to communicate is at the PayPal Dispute console.

Kaho.Chan – eBay Fake Flash Seller – Tricks eBayer

kaho.chan eBay fake flash seller tricks eBayer into closing PayPal dispute with the promise of a full refund. Many eBayers fall into this trap, being honest they expect others to be honest and as an eBay seller honorable as well. Saddly this is how the world should work, but it does not. If you are disputing with a fake flash seller who makes a very profitable living from selling counterfeit drives – that alone should warn you. SuperNova’s story hightlights what happens if you trust a fake flash sellers words.

PayPal Shields EBay Fake Flash Seller 3ToTrade – Odyssey of FlashDad

Paypal – deaf and dumb, this is the conclusion of eBayers claiming against fraudulent sellers of usb fake flash drives on eBay. Are there any real employees at PayPal? eBayers are assulted by email templating from mindless robotic emailers. They suspect that those clicking on the templates to select responses have an IQ no greater than 10. This is astonishing and very hard to believe. Is technology overuling common sense in a effort to save pennies?

We have reviewed too many communications sent to eBayers and have one conclusion – those operating the dispute console have no room to use their intelligence – the robotic templates control.

The language which follows is for mature audiences only. SOSFakeFlash will not censor the emotions of those frustrated by PayPal, eBay or Fake Flash Sellers. We do code the identity of those who come forward and will remove information which leads to personal identificaton.

Presented is the story of FlashDad, who followed procedure and filed a claim at PayPay, naively believing there was something called “Buyer Protection“.

PayPal Shields EBay Fake Flash Seller 3ToTrade – Odyssey of IronCliff

eBayers continue to battle eBay fake flash seller 3ToTrade. 94 counterfeit drives have been investigated and confirmed fake as of September 14, 2008. PayPal has been warned repeatly – eBay too. SOSFakeFlash is convinced that both companies have serious issues in addressing fraud – their communication channels to dialogue with customers almost non-existent. It is a small wonder then, why counterfeit flash drive sellers have had a wonderful life on eBay for so many years. They pull the strings and both companies dance in confusion.

Many eBayers with fake flash drives actually believed in PayPal and eBay. Remember IronCliff?

See: PayPal – How Investigations On Counterfeit USB Flash Drive Sellers On Ebay Could Be Raised

Here is the sad ending of the next chapter for IronCliff.

Whatcools – eBay Fake Flash Seller – Lies And Deception

eBayers continue to battle eBay fake flash seller whatcools. The lies and deception are amazing. This seller does not seem to be aware that eBayer know exactly what he is up to. He does know that for some reason, usb flash drives are being tested properly the moment they arrive.

He knows his seller score is being damaged. Negative and Neutral feedback is pouring in. Still he tries to deceive his buyers.

3ToTrade – Whatcools – Shopwithmela – kaho.chan Sinister Counterfeit Flash Drive Connection On Ebay

3ToTrade – Whatcools – Shopwithmela – kaho.chan are a ring of counterfeit usb flash drive sellers on eBay. They are run and controlled by the Master Seller Id – 3ToTrade. 3ToTrade has been given the name “Don Of Fake Flash In the Orient“. The ring he controls operates from China with satellites in Hong Kong. They have been under investigation for several months having frauded thousands of eBayers with fake flash drives. Details and Evidence are presented.

3ToTrade – Don Of Fake USB Flash Drives In The Orient

3ToTrade sells counterfeit usb flash drives. This is no innocent eBay seller. Highly skilled at manipulating eBay, PayPal and Buyers – this Powerseller remains crowned as the “Don Of Fake USB Flash Drives In the Orient “. Offering the new generation of counterfeit USB Flash drives with enough genuine capacity to squeak past testing of even the suspicious buyers, he evaded detection for a long time.

Why we have given him the title “Don Of Fake USB Flash Drives In The Orient”, will be revealed in this article and others in this series. The depth of his fraud is astonishing.

Update September 2nd, 2009 – Read: eBay Fraud – Heng Fung House – Home To eBay Counterfeit Ring – Lei Sio Hong. Connected To The Don Of Fake Flash In the Orient – 3ToTrade. SOSFakeFlash Investigation.

Whatcools Ebay Fake Flash Seller Controlled by 3ToTrade

Whatcools is an eBay seller with a history of Counterfeit merchandise selling. Controlled by the eBay seller ID 3ToTrade, Whatcools deals in volume selling.

When 3ToTrade was forced to stop lising Counterfeit Flash USB drives on August 13th, 2008. Whatcools began listing these drives.

Currently eBayers are now fighting whatcools and are testing their drives as they arrive in the Post. As a result on September 3rd, 2008 Whatcools switched to the most devious and diabolical listing possible for selling fake flash on eBay – Private Auctions. To learn more…

Shopwithmela eBay Fake Flash Seller Controlled by 3ToTrade

Shopwithmela is an eBay seller of Counterfeit usb flash drives. A fairly recent id that appeared on Ebay in March 2008. Controlled by the eBay seller ID 3ToTrade, Shopwithmela has sold many fake flash drives. Currently not active in selling fake flash at the time of this post – this eBay seller id is hibernating attempting to repair it’s powerseller score.

How Fraudulent Sellers Stay One Step Ahead Of Ebay and PayPal

Have you ever wondered how a fraudlent seller manages to stay on eBay? Gets around PayPal? Why sellers of counterfeit flash drives stay in the game – even when complaints mount against them? How when a fake flash sellers are removed from eBay – four new ones sprout to take their places?

eBayers Pound PayPal Doors For Help Against Fake Flash Seller 3ToTrade

eBayers of Counterfeit USB Drives purchased from 3ToTrade on eBay continue pounding the doors of PayPal for assistance.

At PayPal due to a flaw in the dispute console, eBayers are unable to find an option to report counterfeit merchandise, instead the only option is ” Significantly Not as Described item”. This leads to an automatic response by a robotic responder ordering the eBayer to return the item – blind to the fact it is a counterfeit. It is illegal in most countries to use the Postal System to send or receive counterfeit items.

The robotic emailer is leaving eBayers frustrated and leaves PayPal exposed for future liability. When calling PayPal and speaking directly to a claims agent the position is generally the opposite. We want to know…

PayPal – Reasons To File Dispute For Counterfeit Flash Drives Purchased On eBay

Why should you file a dispute with PayPal against a seller of counterfeit flash drives on eBay? As we have said many times – eBay and PayPal can do litte against a counterfeit seller if people do not report or file complaints. We advise avoiding direct contact with a seller if you have tested and found you bought a fake. Here is why.

PayPal – How Investigations On Counterfeit USB Flash Drive Sellers On Ebay Could Be Raised

PayPal might raise an investigation on a fake flash seller on eBay – but only if there are multiple complains from eBay buyers. The only way this can happen is if you file disputes at the dispute console. If you are under the gun for a 10 day time limit read on to learn more about investigations or if you want a fake flash seller on eBay dealt with.

3ToTrade – Communication with The Don Of Fake Flash – HarryEvidence

HarryEvidence has been battling 3ToTrade for his refunds for fake flash drives. The following is a selection of email communications in chronological order as presented to us by HarryEvidence. It does not begin at the early stages but when things started to heat up.

eBay Not Responding To Counterfeit USB Flash Drive Warnings From eBayers

eBay is not responding to Counterfeit USB flash drive warnings from eBayers. The problem appears to be a flaw in their robotic emailing system that claims to be “Tailored Responses”. As a result one of the worse offenders on eBay – 3ToTrade continues to remain active. As much as eBayers are trying to help eBay they are meeting with resistance. Here is an example.

Fake Flash Sellers eBay Report 20080902

eBay Flash Drive sellers, wonder if they sell fakes? Do you wonder which eBayer countries have been stung by fake flash USB drive purchases on eBay? Not certain which seller to chose? Well you are not alone.

We can’t really tell you about the honest sellers – we know they exist but they are being drowned out by the counterfeit flash drive sellers on ebay. We can tell you who has been caught with their hands in the counterfeit fake flash cookie jar.

Fake Flash USB Drives – Ebay – Mug Shot Report To Help You Recognize The Fakes 20080902

Ebay USB flash drives how to spot the fakes fully revealed in their counterfeit glory. See the USB drives sporting their counterfeit cloths. A Full report 67 eBay Sellers exposed, 129 drive models. This is the report everyone has been waiting for and for many eBayers wished they had before they bid on a counterfeit drive.

A newer report exists at this site.  See under eBay Reports (Mug Shot Reports) category.

3ToTrade – The Battle Continues

eBayers continue to struggle against this fake flash seller. Paypal continues to support 3ToTrade in demanding the fake drives be returned using the postal system.

As of September 14th  2008, there are 77 drives in the 32 GB models that have been confirmed fake.

Also the seller is asking eBayers to return with a low custom value declaration. DON’T!

It is bad enough that both seller and Paypal are requiring eBayers to risk breaking the law by holding their purchase price at ransom.  It illegal to ship counterfeit items using the Postal System in most countries.  The interpretation varies from country to country.  If you chose to return the drive please declare the true value.  This includes:

1. Price you paid for the drive in a bid
2. Price to ship to you
3. Price to register with a tracking number
4. Price to insure the package
5. Price to post

Also please ensure to declare for the item in easy to read print:

Return of counterfeit merchandise to eBay Seller for Refund by order of PayPay.

This will help to alert the postal authorities in China that this seller is dealing in counterfeit merchandise and committing fraud. Also, there is no reason to under declare the value of the drive and all your costs. Tell the truth.