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How An eBay Seller Accidentally Fell Into The Trap Of Selling Fake 32GB Micro Memory Cards On eBay But Discovered In Time! A Personal Story. eBay Buyer Suspicions, Internet Research Did The Rest.

Posted by KittyFireFlash on March 3, 2011

How do honest eBay sellers get caught up in selling fake memory on eBay? The consequences can destroy a sellers reputation for good. SOSFakeFlash routinely publishes eBay sellers caught selling fake usb flash drives, memory cards and mp players. It is done in the interest of buyers at risk for loosing their data and money, to prevent the fraud on eBay escalating even further.

Some assume we delight in publishing sellers. The truth is, we don’t. SOSFakeFlash has published so many alerts, it is difficult for readers to know that SOSFakeFlash was co-founded. It was founded by frauded eBay buyers and by eBay sellers who accidentally sold fake flash memory. The rules were set by the sellers not by the buyers. The sellers are in the best position to judge their peers.

One of the earliest articles published: eBay Sellers Can Be Victims – How Does This Happen?

A lot of eBay sellers actively choose to engage in fraud, purposely scamming buyers with fake usb flash drives, memory cards and mp players, but not all. Most who willfully sell fakes are sellers registered in Asia on eBay but this is changing as Asian sellers are under increasing scrutiny.

Quite a few eBay sellers do not research their product for the real costs, instead they research what is selling “Hot” on eBay. It’s not unusual, but where flash memory items are concerned it can have horrible consequences for a seller. SOSFakeFlash was forced to introduce a zero tolerance policy as the number of listings and sellers offering fakes steadily increased and still increases.

While SOSFakeFlash must report, other sites in the FrankenFlash project attempt to publish articles and warnings to increase awareness on fake flash memory for both buyers (consumers) and potential resellers. Everyone’s help is needed.

Recently an eBay seller contacted SOSFakeFlash to tell their personal story, how they made a serious error and how it happened. We don’t know who the seller is, nor do we want to know. What matters is that the seller took the time to document how it happened and what they did when they discovered the truth. It goes without saying the seller demonstrated integrity, the spirit of the early founders of SOSFakeFlash and also how eBay sellers should behave.

We researched the story and have included graphic images as the url references will soon disappear from the internet. The story is published as is for you to read unedited.

Hi

I just thought i would drop you an email about my recent experience….

I have relatively recently started selling on ebay and happened to come across ……

http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&item=300528377602

membeuk Listing

and this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180627894066&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

unlockurfone Listing

and this http://offer.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&item=300529468362

FeedbackForItemthelord786

Item sold was:

thelord786

The first chap sold 44 units in one day so i decided to investigate further, thinking i had found a great selling opportunity.

What i found on AliExspress was this…

Free shipping oem 32gb Micro sd card

http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/399467634-Free-shipping-oem-32gb-Micro-sd-card-wholesalers.html

lily yi's store

I placed an order. I HONESTLY thought that it was genuine because others are selling at low prices too😦 I started an ebay advert, selling these at £25 on pre-order. I messaged all my buyers to check that they understood i was waiting for stock. I sold 34 in less than 24 hours!!

However, a few people contacted me for assurances re authenticity and i started to get suspicious. I went for online chat with my supplier who when they found out i had selected DHL as the carrier, INSISTED i cancel my order. I was confused as i had paid for DHL but they wanted to use EMS.

Eventually, they confessed, “our goods are copies and DHL are strict and will seize the goods !! ” They went on to say i could re-order and select EMS and then i would be safe!!!

I was and still am , absolutely horrified, completely mortified and yes, embarrassed😦 I contacted every buyer , with a lengthy apology, cancelled all the 34 transactions and refunded all the money.

I cannot believe this goes on and that not only are these products fake, but also not the advertised capacity either !! Really, i am shocked at what ive since learnt !! Shocked and disgusted😦

Hope this is useful to you

Seller chosen name withheld by SOSFakeFlash to protect seller privacy.

This seller was lucky. eBay buyers are demonstrating wariness on eBay for buying flash memory. In contacting the seller, the seller exercised good judgment and began to research. Buyers helped a seller from frauding others and to avoid selling fake memory on eBay.

This eBay seller learned a difficult lesson but showed what a good, honest and responsible eBay seller does. It is the spirit many of us old timers on eBay knew and want to see return to eBay! It is what made eBay once, long ago… a great place to shop! We want you to experience what we once knew.

SOSFakeFlash continues to try and protect eBay members from fake flash memory purchases. eBay on the other hand, continues to NOT PROTECT YOU! The sad fact is, eBay flash memory clean up occurs because of members, not because of eBay. If you don’t want to believe us, begin researching this site and how many sellers we have been forced to publish since 2008. Then decide.

You can judge a seller by their actions. If they claim ignorance and try to convince you the item is “faulty” or “defective” or threaten or attempt to blackmail you into leaving positive feedback or revising your feedback, you have a fraudulent seller on your hands.

We remind you to test your items for true capacity with the free programme, H2testw and carefully read:

H2testw 1.4 – Gold Standard In Detecting USB Counterfeit Drives

to understand more about the programme before you use it. If you purchased a brand name, ensure you perform a validation at the brand site too.

The most important contributions readers can make?

SOSFakeFlash Announces Phase III For Operation Fake Flash Storm Against eBay. Toward A Fake Flash Drive Free World – No More Counterfeits – No More Data Loss! Using Social Media To Fight Fake Memory. Do You Have A Facebook Account?

How To Warn Others On eBay As A Fake Flash Angel – Fight Back Against Fake MP Players, Memory Cards, USB Flash Drives – A Guide

How Are People Fighting Against Fake Memory MP Players, USB Flash Drives And Memory Cards? eBay And The Internet.

SOSFakeFlash – eBay Fraud Flash Memory Upgraded Digitally Altered Capacity. Status Report November 2010. Best eBay Prices For USB Pen sticks, Memory Cards, MP Players. Warning – 95% Of eBay Listings Are For Fake Memory.

This seller was saved by eBay buyers. Kudos to all eBay buyers who make a small positive contribution in fighting and preventing fake flash memory sales on eBay!

Help educate. Spread the word!

43 Responses to “How An eBay Seller Accidentally Fell Into The Trap Of Selling Fake 32GB Micro Memory Cards On eBay But Discovered In Time! A Personal Story. eBay Buyer Suspicions, Internet Research Did The Rest.”

  1. Gregsbeenscrewed said

    Nice story. VEry similar to mine posted on this site about 2 weeks ago. I got to this site before my items arrived and tested priot to acutally selling them. The intersting thing I read was they confessed and DHL has stirct rules. REALLY. Don’t think so. Not even Sandisk, the brand I bought, cares. I have emailed, DHL and Sandisk wanting to give information but neither have returned emails. It boils down to this in my opinion, the fake cards are such common place that DHL and SAndisk know that the battle is too big to fight. For DHL, there is nothing they can do. They cannot open every retail package and test before beingdelivered. This is a BATTLE of the honest sellers on eBay versus the criminals that are out for a fast buck. I think I am going to sell the 30 cards I have on eBay in one ongoing listing with pictures and descriptions that the cards are fake. I have a fairly high feedback rating so the item will be seen and perhaps we can stop some buyers before the there problem starts.

  2. Lily said

    Did you try brandprotection@sandisk.com? They responded to my last question about a fake card.

  3. KittyFireFlash said

    @Greg,

    Yes this is a battle between honest eBay sellers and fraudulent ones.

    Honest sellers who sell at fair prices for the market, disappear under the listings of the fraudulent sellers. Most people, sort by the lowest price first as a rule. It is rare for buyers to sort by highest price first.

    People frequently ask us for the “genuine sellers”. Well, try sorting by highest price first and then review their feedback score. Contact a buyer or two for the seller, ask them about their experience and the capacity they got. Honest sellers will not mind you poking into their feedback, as their customers happy experience is the best currency they have.

    Greg, we have seen a lot of eBay sellers determined to sell the real capacity for mp players, memory cards and usb flash drives. Most did not last as long as one year. We even tried to give them exposure as we have a strong internet presence and there is no issue of ‘conflict of interest’ as we still do not accept any $ donations. Just trying to give them a better chance since the cards seem stacked against them.

    They reported very little profit, the listing fees, commissions, bled them dry. Most walked away from eBay with a financial loss. Sad is it not?

    Until the fraudulent scammers are removed, honest eBay sellers don’t stand much of a chance. It is not fair. Unfortuantely buyers are partly responsible, they line up at the fake flash memory table, pushing and shoving to get their cheap fake. Of course they don’t know it, until later…

    BE CAREFUL IF YOU AUCTION FAKES!

    You might mean well, but you are asking for possible trouble. Others have tried and you would be surprised how many buyers do not read carefully. Your best option is to ensure you put “FAKE” in your listing title. You would also have to make it clear in your listing you are selling a genuine guaranteed fake only for the purposes of those who might like the education of examinng and testing a fake. You can see what we are saying…

    It is risky. A hugh warning message could help the cause, but you do risk being burned. It has happened to others. 99 buyers will thank you for the advice and info, 1 dumb idiot will stab you in the back for doing good.

    Seth (FakeFlashCommando team – not directly associated with us for reasons obvious) advised if you want to play the warning game – get a new id for selling, groom it, then do your thing. Learn from the fake flash sellers.

    It’s good advice. We salute those who do warning listings on eBay. They were and still are desperately needed. It takes the message inside of eBay, where it belongs. The inside listing exposure is probably the most effective deterant to becoming a fake flash memory victim. We have not seen enough warning listings recently, in fact they don’t seem to exist anymore. 😕

    Take Seth’s advice, Greg. There is always going to be one person, a french fry short of a “happy meal”. Be on guard, they do exist.

  4. Gregsbeenscrewed said

    Other than the obvious picture of what the main retail packaging is, do you have any suggestions on pictures or advice on what to put into the listing that would draw a fast eye. I know the packaging mine came in has been seen a few times. I was going to put the product number that is on the package and then circle he lack of a serial number on the card as a starter. ANything else that you think I should list. I have several eBay ID’s so I am going to use the least feedback rating ID and use it for the listings. What links do you think I should include from your site to get buyers to read.

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  6. Seth said

    Sob! Good to see a seller accept responsibility and act.

    Unfortunately Kitty, a lot of eBay sellers don’t have guts like this seller. They keep trying to do a con.

    Buyers in United States fall for it. Defective. Faulty. Give us a break. Anybody who falls for the scam deserves to kiss their refund goodbye.

    Can you explain please why eBay people in the United States are so stupid?😛

  7. Gregsbeenscrewed said

    I have listed the fake items on ebay to serve notice. I will list for a while. I have great news, I fought this thru a few channels including the web site I found the oriignal company on and that company put pressure on the company I bought from and they refunded my money. I think they are a legit business with frauders working inside. I have never been so glad to see $375 in my life.

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  9. Gregsbeenscrewed said

    AS most of you ahve already said, eBay does not care. I listed 2 items for sale that were fake. I said they were fake and eBay has politely told me I violated there listing rules because of Trademark violations. REALLY. I said they were not sandisk and that they were fakes. eBAy does not care. I am done wasting my time. I did fight the law and Greg won, I picked up my refund from the company in China on Monday via Western union. Ladies and gentlemen, I am no longer interested in selling sandisk cards of any sorts and I will go back to making my few dollars on the items I currently sell. Thanks for your info on this site but You are all wasting time.

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  11. KittyFireFlash said

    @Greg,

    We thank you for your contribution. OK so eBay took down your listings, nothing new there. They will try to split hairs and find any excuse to keep people from posting warning listings on eBay. It makes it very clear that $ talks and you-know-what-walks as they say.

    Because of the hypocrisy there are those who join the FakeFlashCommandos.

    Best you stay out of the eBay cross hairs right now and if you do decide to register new ids, do from some other PC, email address and bank account. What you are revealing about eBay only shows their desperation, yes they can sink pretty low.

    Won’t say we are wasting our time…. after all, you did find one of the sites in the FrankenFlash Project. You got your refund. Kudos to you. As you say, Greg won. That is what counts most and you learned the hard way, selling flash memory on eBay is not a good idea, the risk of acquiring fakes just too high.

    So if eBay resellers find out in time, we are not wasting our effort. Less misery all around. Wiser people too.

  12. Gregsbeenscrewed said

    Thats true. Continue your efforts, you guys are doing great work. To bad the fight is falling on deaf ears.

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