leo4xmas Ebay Fake Flash Memory Seller Alert – China
Posted by KittyFireFlash on April 20, 2010
leo4xmas is an eBay seller of Counterfeit (Fake – false capacity memory) memory cards and MP Players. Registered in China, leo4xmas used multiple item listings.
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Special Feature: 32B, XiaoFeng Building Address Fake Flash Memory Selling On eBay. On Site Visit To The Don Of Fake Flash In The Orient.
Questions? Please read:
- Global Report – eBay Fake Memory 2008 – 2009
- Crises on Ebay For Fake Flash Memory Products Sold In 32GB 64GB 128GB 256GB – SOSFakeFlash Reports
- Fake Flash Memory On Ebay Escalates. SOSFakeFlash Status Report 20091031. Fake Memory Cards, MP3 MP4 Players, USB Flash Drive PenSticks. How To Fight Against Fraud.
First time victim? Please read this article, see what fake flash memory sellers do when not enough buyers fight back: international-distributing Ebay Flash Memory Seller – An Experiment In Selling True Capacity? The History Behind international-distributing ID On eBay. A Very Dark Past.
Please test your device to ensure you have the advertised capacity. Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.
Don’t forget to leave the calling card of “SOSFakeFlash” and “H2testw” in your feedback to help others. Do not change your feedback to get a refund – you will only create more victims. See what we have on file.
Do a good deed, warn other eBay buyers of fake flash. Help rescue them. Check positive feedback for a fake flash seller and send messages to warn. Just state facts, ask them to test. You can only send up to 5 messages a day. Save another person from a fake flash nightmare and potential data loss.
Please read and vote: How Do You Alter Flash Memory Chips To Lie About Their Real Capacity – Do You Want To Know More? Your input as a victim is required.
To understand about Fake Flash Sellers Read:
- fengfeng_joy2008 Fraud – Conversations between THH And Fake Flash Seller On Fake 32GB Memory Cards. Tale of Denial, Bribery And Violation Of eBay’s Feedback Policies
- FAKE 16GB 32GB 64GB – Conversations Between A Fake Flash Seller and A Victim – The Truth About the Scam Exposed
A Victim’s insight: ebidetrade001 Ebay Fake Flash Seller High Alert Devious – Hong Kong
Victim consumer education on nand flash storage chips:
- Genuine Verses Fake Counterfeit USB Flash Drives – A Guide – USB Flash Chips Used – Grades A B C D
- What Are The Real Costs For Flash Chips In China? Guide 2009
Want to know the bid prices eBay victims paid for fake MP Players. Read: MP Players On Ebay – Current Prices For Cheap Fake 2GB 4GB 8GB 16GB 32 GB SOSFakeFlash’s Report it includes Q2, 2009!
Important Reading:
- PayPal Refunds Victim Of Fake – False Capacity USB Flash Drives Purchased On Ebay. 8 Month Battle Leads To Success.
- eBay – What To Do When Sellers Demands You Change Your Negative Feedback To Positive For A Refund Or Demands Positive As A Condition Of Refund – A Guide
- USB Flash Drives Best Price Bargains Fair Value To Sell Or Buy 8GB 16GB 32GB
- MP Players On Ebay – Current Prices For Cheap Fake 2GB 4GB 8GB 16GB 32 GB SOSFakeFlash’s Report
- SOSFakeFlash Consumer Education Week 20090605 – 20090612. The Problem of Counterfeit and Fake Memory Sold On Ebay
- PayPal Orders You To Return Fake MP Players, Fake MP Players , Fake USB Flash Drives, Fake Memory Cards To Get A Refund? Think Again!
- Genuine Verses Fake Counterfeit USB Flash Drives – A Guide – USB Flash Chips Used – Grades A B C D
- What Are The Real Costs For Flash Chips In China? Guide 2009
To see leo4xmas’s negative feedback Please Click Here
April 18th, 2010 – we have 3 eBay listings confirmed fake.
The models sold under the eBay seller leo4xmas confirmed as Counterfeit, recorded with eBayer ID and eBay Item Number – Standard Procedure. Presented as listed at auction. Counterfeit items tied to criminal activity enjoy no protection. If you bought one of these items from leo4xmas, you should test immediately with the software H2testw 1.4 . Do not store any important information until you can confirm you have the advertised capacity (minus formatting overhead).
Should your device not report the true advertised capacity:
- Immediately attempt to move any data you have stored on it to another source. Be advised if you have stored more than the reported size from H2testw 1.4, you will not be able to recover it all – you can expect to see errors in the copy back.
- Immediately report to eBay and PayPal to add your voice against this seller.
If the eBay Item number has disappeared from your won list. Please go to PayPal and search through your transactions for the approximate time frame of your purchase. You will find the details of your transaction and ebay item number. PayPal keeps this information for a long time. Use the email address:
complaint-response@paypal.com
Please include:
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PayPal Transaction Number
- Ebay Item Number
- Date Of PayPal Transaction
- Date Of eBay Item Listing
- Your eBayer Id
- Cite eBay Seller leo4xmas
- The results from your testing with H2testw 1.4
- Any information concerning data loss and it’s value to you
You are to inform them you wish to be part of the investigation against this seller and are adding yourself to the evidence. You expect to be fully refunded for the purchase and shipping and if you can prove data loss compensation for it as well. Furthermore, it is a fact that PayPal and eBay are aware of cases pouring in. You are invited to copy:
SOSFakeFlashDrive@gmail.com
on your correspondence.
SOSFakeFlash 
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Maria said
hmm…. i just got an item from leo4xmas, it’s a 32 GB MP3 MP4 Mp5 player camera… started H2testw 1.4 and it says it’ll take 5 smth hours to complete… well, i’ll wait that much cuz i wanna find out if this thing is truly 32 GB. at least now it’s saying “Warning: Only 30315 of 30327 MByte tested.”… Does it mean that i do have something around 32 GB?….
Maria said
OK, i finished testing… lol too early…
and i retested it too…
Warning: Only 2521 of 30327 MByte tested.
Test finished without errors.
Reading speed: 8.89 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
Maria said
The media is likely to be defective.
3.5 GByte OK (7403840 sectors)
26.0 GByte DATA LOST (54705856 sectors)
Details:25.2 GByte overwritten (52996300 sectors)
0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
834.7 MByte corrupted (1709556 sectors)
32 KByte aliased memory (64 sectors)
First error at offset: 0x00000000e1f28000
Expected: 0x00000000e1f28000
Found: 0x00000000e1f20000
H2testw version 1.3
Writing speed: 6.14 MByte/s
Reading speed: 8.46 MByte/s
H2testw v1.4
what does this mesn?…
InspectorTech said
@Maria
4GB flash storage chip, not 32GB as advertised. The 3.4GB report instead of 3.9GB may be due to a 2nd partition. For MP Players this is often seen.
In plain talk, you bought what is known as ‘fake’ – false capacity. The MP Player has been hacked to pretend it is 32GB.
Maria said
but what does this mean?…
Test finished without errors.
You can now delete the test files *.h2w or verify them again.
Writing speed: 0.00 KByte/s
Reading speed: 0.00 KByte/s
H2testw v1.4
InspectorTech said
@Maria
Are you referring to your comment:
? For the report above you only tested partially. A test of the flash memory chip requires you test the full capacity seen or reported, not just the begining. If you only test a small part you might still be in the real capacity area. This is what your test revealed.
Everyone should test the full reported capacity. Do not take short cuts. Make sure you select the options to do so. It could take a long time, so run it overnight when you are not using your computer.
H2testw tests the reported or seen capacity. That is how it discovers if you have a genuine item or a false capacity one. You can find more details or technical information in the readme.txt file that comes with the programme.
For curious or brave with gentle fingers, you can open the item and decode the chips.
Maria said
no, the last post (0:07) was a result of another test of another device…
Maria said
ha ha i contacted the seller 🙂 here’s our little conversation :)))
**ME:
the item you have sent me is not a 32 GB but 3.5GB.
i will report it if you won’t refund my money.
– mariam*aguilar
*LEO4XMAS:
Dear friend,
I am sorry to hear that.
I am afraid that we were cheated by our supplier since there are some buyers complained the same problem to me these days.
In this case,would you mind to ship it back for an exchange or a full refund?
If it is inconvenience for you ship it back,how about to accept a partial refund from us?
Hope you won’t be angry with me and won’t report to ebay or paypal before we resolve this problem.
And i saw you left a negative feedback, will you help me remove it after i refund you?
Awaiting your response.
Regards,
LJ
**ME:
well, what would be a partial refund? i might just
as well ship it back to you. and actually, touch
screen doesn’t work on some pages.
– mariam*aguilar
*LEO4XMAS:
Dear friend,
Thanks for your reply.
I will keep some postgae if you don’t want to return the item back.
But in that case, i would like to full refund you then you keep the item.
But can you help me to remove the negative feedback?
Awaiting your response.
Regards,
LJ
** ME:
how much do you want to keep from the postage price?
– mariam*aguilar
* LEO4XMAS:
Dear mariam*aguilar,
15 USD.
– leo4xmas
** Me:
ok, let me 24 hrs and i will let you know what i’ve
decided.
– mariam*aguilar
*** LEO4XMAS :
Dear mariam*aguilar,
OK, Please remenber if you are willing to remove the negative feeback for me,you don’t need to return the item and you can get full refund.
I am sorry for any inconvenience caused to you.
Have a nice day!
Regards,
LJ
Well, what do you think?!.. he even wants me to change my negative feedback and refund ALL my money (as i understood) and i keep the item lol :)))
KittyFireFlash said
Great documentation Maria!
It is standard behavior for fake flash memory sellers to try and get people to remove their negative feedback. They use refunds as a hostage. Unfortunately too many eBay members cave in and accept them.
In many cases they never get the refund. As far as we are concerned, serves them right! It is very foolish to be believe a seller.
At one point we almost shut down the project in disgust. Why bother when people chose to betray others? It’s not like we get paid for the work we do or anything. We earn zip. Nada. Nothing for our efforts to help others.
The real reason they try to get people to change feedback is because it brings them to the attention of eBay. If their score drops eBay will have no choice but to suspend them. They fear that. In some cases they have offered bribes. More money than the buyer ever paid. Anything to move the exposure and to continue engaging in fraud.
It really makes the pioneers of the project angry when we all see eBay members change their feedback.
A lot of decent people refused to change feedback. They suffered the financial loss and many could not really afford it. Why did they do it?
Because they knew there would be more victims like you, Maria. You and others were more important than the money they lost.
In IMHO, it reveals a person’s character. There are those who refuse to be frauded and fight back and are even willing to suffer the consequences (financial loss) in some cases. There are those who are complacent, who will think only of themselves. The big “Me, Myself and I”.
How a person chooses to deal with being frauded on eBay reveals a great deal about themselves.
Thx, Maria for your story. People need reminding how fake flash memory sellers operate.
Maria said
you’re welcome, KittyFireFlash, i am surely not going to change my negative feedback, even for full price. if there is a way to fight them, i’d like to be a part of it. it’s terrible how they make money off selling fakes to people.
KittyFireFlash said
Hi Maria,
Start by contacting some buyers who leave positive feedback and warn them to test. Make sure you stay with in the 5 a day limit.
It is terrible. The fraud is unbelivable. The question is…how can we educate buyers? Most people just do not know how expensive genuine flash memory chips are. The larger the capacity the MORE expensive!!!!!!!