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eBay Buyer Protection – Call To All USA eBay Members Who Are Victims Of Fake Flash Memory Purchased On eBay

Posted by KittyFireFlash on March 15, 2010

Are you an eBay member registered on eBay.com? Did you know eBay has introduced a new form of “Buyer Protection”? It has replaced PayPal Buyer Protection. If your id is registered in the United States and you purchased a fake memory card, mp player, or usb flash drive you now fall under this new system. All other countries still fall under the old Paypal Buyer Protection system for the exact same fraudulent item listing.

So what are the differences for this eBay Buyer Protection System compared to the standard PayPal Buyer Protection system?

SOSFakeFlash needs to know on behalf of victims:

  • Is it good?
  • Is it bad?
  • Are you forced to dialogue with the fraudster?
  • Does the seller try to make you leave positive feedback or change your negative feedback for a refund?
  • Does the seller try to convince you or succeed in having you believe the item was defective or an accident, sent to you by mistake? ***

*** A flash memory item digitally altered is not a mistake or defective. It has been reprogrammed to lie about it’s true size to operating systems. H2testw is designed to detect this.

SOSFakeFlash needs your help to clarify the differences between eBay Buyer Protection and PayPal Buyer Protection. Please leave comments on this post to share with others and to help us collect information.

17 Responses to “eBay Buyer Protection – Call To All USA eBay Members Who Are Victims Of Fake Flash Memory Purchased On eBay”

  1. Roger said

    I think the new system has been in effect for over two months and it worked great for me, got my pay pal account refunded and got rid of the seller…at least in using that name. Dialog began with the seller, and really went nowhere until they tried to get me to change my feedback from negative to positive. As soon as that happened I reported that to eBay pointing out that was a violation of policy. Shortly after that I was refunded and seller was de-registered.

    One important point: As soon as I escalated the dispute, I informed eBay that in no way would I send the item back as I would be violating the postal laws. One should not be required to send an obviously fake (not faulty)item back to the crook only to have them re-sell it to another person. Nobody has the right to ask someone or require them to break the law and that includes eBay and Pay Pal! In the case of these fake/counterfeit drives, I believe it is important to be very rigid on that point. If an eBay representative wants to come to my house and pick up the fake device, that is fine, but no way is it going through the mail by me. To date, nobody has shown up, however, I still have it and do not use it.

    I believe they do ask you to try and work it out with the seller first and I have no problem in doing that as it is just common sense courtesy to try that avenue first. If that does not work, then simply leave negative feedback and file a dispute and escalate it if the seller tries to extort positive feedback for refund, that when you have then right where you want them.

  2. Paul said

    Unfortunately, it took me several days to discover (with the help of an, ‘also scammed’, eBay customer) that my ’32gb’ flash disk was actually only 4gb. In the meantime I had left a positive feedback to the seller and have found no way to remedy that mistake (although I did leave ‘additional feedback’). Neither eBay nor PayPal were of much help other than telling me: “Send the device back and give us prove that it was received in good condition by the seller and we will refund partial payment”.
    I have not found a way to fight back and have terminated my accounts with eBay and PayPay.

  3. KittyFireFlash said

    Hi Paul,

    We appreciate your battle. You have contributed. Sadly your case is like so many others. eBay allowed the fraud and sided with the sellers. In doing so, they lost a lot. You as a customer. The same for PayPal. Everyday, eBay loses members and they are not growing. Everyday new internet sites are nibbling away at eBay.

    You are not the first to leave. Over the last two years we have seen many members who received the treatment you did, vote with their feet. It serves them right. It is not common knowledge that eBay members leave when the service is so bad and the protection is revealed to be a joke. Of course eBay knows but it is not something they can advertise or their shares will go to rock bottom.

    You can still fight back. Tell everyone you know and meet about your “eBay buyer experience”. Warn them not to buy on eBay, especially for flash memory.

    Warn the local schools, the local community newspapers. Document your fake at a website and send us the url.

    A lot of people put up notices on their company employee bulliten boards – An old fashioned paper sheet notice warning and leave their telephone numbers for interested and concerned colleagues to contact them. There have never been any reports of problems. Bosses are interested, especially when you “demo” the fake. You can bet a notice is send to Purchasing that they better not buy any flash memory on eBay, or else! This is especially important for small and medium size companies. In the current economic climate everyone is hurting and looking for ways to reduce costs. Well, eBay definately is NOT THE ANSWER!

    The most important thing Paul, is to spread the message. You didn’t know about fake memory or that flash memory chips can be manipulated or altered. Most people do not. We did not know ourselves and that is how we became victims. It is not only general computer users but very technical IT people who were scammed. Everyone trusted in eBay, this was the first mistake. Those nice little “eBayer Buyer Protection” images? Spin, a sham – lies. You and many others have discovered this the hard way.

    What matters is that people who are frauded – fight back. Any and everyway they can find. It does make a different, we can see it. So do your part everyone. A little thing or a big one. Every bit counts.

    The power of one becomes the power of many!

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  15. Curt Scott said

    One e-bayer has has taken an aggressive posture: OutScamming the Scammers.
    It’s about bidding on & winning the fakes themselves. And then: Demanding complete refunds. Citing postal laws to keep the fake instead of returning it. Issuing negative feedback to the seller. Warning others. And finally: Fixing the fake to read it’s correct capacity for personal use or as a gift!
    Got some time? This is FUN! and it WORKS! See:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&Item=110571487905

  16. Seth said

    GOOD!

    We need people who have guts, tell the truth.

  17. Cool 😉 Curt.

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