andy-wjm Ebay Fake Flash Seller Alert – Hong Kong
Posted by KittyFireFlash on August 12, 2009
andy-wjm is an eBay seller of Counterfeit (Fake) MP Players. Registered in Hong Kong, andy-wjm sold more than 500+ items.
To understand about Fake Flash Sellers Read:
- fengfeng_joy2008 Fraud – Conversations between THH And Fake Flash Seller On Fake 32GB Memory Cards. Tale of Denial, Bribery And Violation Of eBay’s Feedback Policies
- FAKE 16GB 32GB 64GB – Conversations Between A Fake Flash Seller and A Victim – The Truth About the Scam Exposed
A Victim’s insight: ebidetrade001 Ebay Fake Flash Seller High Alert Devious – Hong Kong
Victim consumer education on nand flash storage chips:
- Genuine Verses Fake Counterfeit USB Flash Drives – A Guide – USB Flash Chips Used – Grades A B C D
- What Are The Real Costs For Flash Chips In China? Guide 2009
Want to know the bid prices eBay victims paid for fake MP Players. Read: MP Players On Ebay – Current Prices For Cheap Fake 2GB 4GB 8GB 16GB 32 GB SOSFakeFlash’s Report it includes Q2, 2009!
Important Reading:
- PayPal Refunds Victim Of Fake – False Capacity USB Flash Drives Purchased On Ebay. 8 Month Battle Leads To Success.
- Escalation In False Capacity USB Fake Memory eBay! SOSFakeFlash News July 3rd, 2009
- eBay Victims do not leave positive Feedback or change FB to positive to get refunds!
- eBay – What To Do When Sellers Demands You Change Your Negative Feedback To Positive For A Refund Or Demands Positive As A Condition Of Refund – A Guide
- USB Flash Drives Best Price Bargains Fair Value To Sell Or Buy 8GB 16GB 32GB
- Why Leave Immediate Negative Feedback For an eBay Fake Flash Seller?
- MP Players On Ebay – Current Prices For Cheap Fake 2GB 4GB 8GB 16GB 32 GB SOSFakeFlash’s Report
- SOSFakeFlash Consumer Education Week 20090605 – 20090612. The Problem of Counterfeit and Fake Memory Sold On Ebay
Report in to SOSFakeFlash if your testing confirms you have a false capacity device.
Don’t forget to leave the calling card of “SOSFakeFlash” and “H2testw” in your feedback to help others. Do not change your feedback to get a refund – you will only create more victims. See what we have on file.
- PayPal Orders You To Return Fake MP Players, Fake MP Players , Fake USB Flash Drives, Fake Memory Cards To Get A Refund? Think Again!
- Genuine Verses Fake Counterfeit USB Flash Drives – A Guide – USB Flash Chips Used – Grades A B C D
- What Are The Real Costs For Flash Chips In China? Guide 2009
To see andy-wjm’s negative feedback Please Click Here
August 7th, 2009 – we have eBay listings confirmed fake.
The models sold under the eBay seller andy-wjm confirmed as Counterfeit, recorded with eBayer ID and eBay Item Number – Standard Procedure. Presented as listed at auction. Counterfeit items tied to criminal activity enjoy no protection. If you bought one of these items from andy-wjm, you should test immediately with the software H2testw 1.4 . Do not store any important information until you can confirm you have the advertised capacity (minus formatting overhead).
Sold by andy-wjm
not yet investigated:
Should your device not report the true advertised capacity:
- Immediately attempt to move any data you have stored on it to another source. Be advised if you have stored more than the reported size from H2testw 1.4, you will not be able to recover it all – you can expect to see errors in the copy back.
- Immediately report to eBay and PayPal to add your voice against this seller.
If the eBay Item number has disappeared from your won list. Please go to PayPal and search through your transactions for the approximate time frame of your purchase. You will find the details of your transaction and ebay item number. PayPal keeps this information for a long time. Use the email address:
complaint-response@paypal.com
Please include:
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PayPal Transaction Number
- Ebay Item Number
- Date Of PayPal Transaction
- Date Of eBay Item Listing
- Your eBayer Id
- Cite eBay Seller andy-wjm
- The results from your testing with H2testw 1.4
- Any information concerning data loss and it’s value to you
You are to inform them you wish to be part of the investigation against this seller and are adding yourself to the evidence. You expect to be fully refunded for the purchase and shipping and if you can prove data loss compensation for it as well. Furthermore, it is a fact that PayPal and eBay are aware of cases pouring in. You are invited to copy:
SOSFakeFlashDrive@gmail.com
on your correspondence.
Llorond said
Got a reply today from andy-wjm saying
Hallo llorond,
don’t worry, we will test the player before we sent, thanks
– andy-wjm
I’ll keep myself in patience.
GUMBY said
I am in the same situation, just won a 32GB and a 16GB Ainol V9000HDA PMP and now I read this, I don’t know what to make of it, they were so inexpensive that I might take the risk. I am awaiting other people feedback before I actually pay him. Sounds like a scam already though because Ainol doesn’t even make a 32GB version!
ssme said
i recently paid for 12 mp players from various members of the sunyou gang. none of them have arrived 3 weeks on, and as i sent them a warning email about not sending fakes, i don’t expect them to. i had a similar experience with micro sd cards earlier in the year – i paid with a warning email and the items simply never turned up, and so i got a refund.
what’s interesting is that best-ebay-sell and best-phone-sell now have zero items for sale on ebay uk. e-bay-wei has no mp players left on auction, they’re all up for buy it now. i wonder if they’ve given up?
JO said
hi thanks for useful info, my question is can these mp4 players that turn out to be only 2gb be used still as a working player or do you need to remove the hack some how. i have just bought some of these for my children and hope i have not wasted my money/ keep up the good work ,thank JO.
Miffed said
I think these guys dont ship items if they are won at auction for a low price. I won 6 different items from Andy-wjm and E-bay-wei and non arrived! Got fed the excuse of “it is on the way. probably delayed in customs. blaa blaa”
These people probably make their money by earning interest on money they have received and hold onto for 1 month before refunding!
Would it not be an idea if a group of people (mayhap the people posting here) to ensure we secure winning bids on alot of his items but just dont pay, and if/when questioned by ebay, explain everything to them.
It might not stop them but it will put a dent in their profits!
edgard said
someone i need advice i ordered 3 products from andy-wjm and 2 from e-bay-wei and its been like a month and nothing same excuse heres the email
take a picture before you send it very simple may you send me pictures of the player?
——————————————————————————–
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 14:03:43 +0800
Subject: Re: edgardsworld2 has sent a question about item #280524821742, that ended on Jun-23-10 09:25:13 PDT – 16GB 4.3″ Screen 1080P MP3 MP4 MP5 MKV TV HDMI Full HD
From: andywjm@gmail.com
To: edgardsworld@hotmail.com
oh, we don’t have it, it’s difficult to get a receipt paypal from the post office with regular mail,
even it can get a little paper, it’s impossible for us to find it, as i informed you before,
we got thousands of packages everyday, and the shipping company got many Customers like us, so i really can’t image how many package they sent everyday, and the HongKont air mail usually do not have a receipt unless you send it with Registered package, the shipping with that will cost more than $20 if we sent one package Separate, it’s too much for the player, you know , so i don’t know how can i proof it….
weird thing is when andy sent me an email it was replying to the player i bought from e-bay-wei
please help edgardsworld@hotmail.com
ihatefakes said
andy-wjm has changed his ebay user name!!!
sneaky tricks!!
new user name is hello-9928
also e-bay-wei is now ly7589
now is the time to finish these scumbags off forever!
warn the buyers!!!
Daxon said
Yeah, I have bought a total of 16 Players from;
“best-e-bay-sell” (Now suspended)
“best-phone-sell”
“andy-wjm” (Current name- “hello-9928”)
“e-bay-wei” (Current name- “ly7589”)
All of them seem to be the same person, as I have mailed each one of them separately and “best-phone-sell” answered all of them.
Its been over a month and I’m still waiting, I told them I am would wait 2 more weeks, after that I’m filing 16 disputes.
Miffed said
IHateFakes is right, both users have changed their names:
Andy-wjm is now hello-9928
and e-bay-wei is now ly7589
I have sent maybe 10 complaints to ebay in the last 48 hours about these two scumbags, and also left some negative feedback.
Andy-wjm has a ton of recent negative feedback, last time i checked his whole recent page of feedback was red! Haha!
Lets lynch these sons of b*tches!
RedSkull said
Be warned ANDY-WJM as changed EBAY ID TODAY 9 july 2010 for Hello-9928
InspectorTech said
Doing maintenance on the databases, when finished will make changes for the id’s.
Thanks for the updates everyone.
They won’t escape. Kitty alerted.
InspectorTech said
Reorg of DBs completed. We’ve transferred info from these sellers. Stay tuned. ❗
Kitty’s claws are sharpening….
FakeFlashNews being contacted too.
ijatz5821 said
I also have been a victim too from this seller.. ordered few players…but didnt received…no refund no communication..very bad. lost AU 100
Daxon said
He has now stopped all communication & now he has no listings at all.
I do not care if they are only hacked 2GB, which I know they are. But I just want them to arrive, so far it feels like he hasn’t posted them at all. Which seems to be the case now.
Its gone worse now, because now he’s just stealing money and not sending anything!
jim said
Hello Every one
Look i got a reply from him.. fucking i m so mad … took all my money no item, jerk around…. wait wait wait.. BS
here is the copy of andy
oh,sorry,but you total buy 2 players from me at the different time,one parcel is sent out to you on Jun 22th,the other parcel is sent out to you on Jun 25th,because this is an international delivery, shipping time will be highly depended on the courier company and local customs and also because of holiday in China and the volcanic explosion in south Iceland,As the Dragon Boat Festival holiday reasons,the post maybe delay your parcel,hope you can understand and wait more days,if your address is right,i think you will get it soon,is ok?if you don’t want to wait again,maybe i only can refund to you now,pls tell me what i should do for you,ok?
jim said
bought bunch of item and nothing came.. here is another fucking excuse …. I am so mad …wait wait….. excuse…
Hello dear buyer
I am so sorry ,but i did sent your items .I dont know what’s the matter with the shipping post this time ,i am connecting with the office to ask for the reason ..Usually it will cost 7-21 days to be arrived your country without any delay .
Hope you can wait some days .If you have anything ,pls email me at any time .
Best regards.
– best-e-bay-sell
jim said
and he still fucking want me to buy more shit from him….
Why Ebay can,t stop this guy
oh,sorry,but i have not the items for auction on ebay again,wishyou can understand that,if you are still interested in the item,maybe you only can buy the fix-price,is ok for you?thanks!
Llorond said
Today I claimed the case at Paypal for my 3 items.
Reading all this I have no hope that I will receive anything from him.
But there appeared another name connected to the paypal adress of anywjm.
It is [b]Jianming Wu[/b]
So that may be for your records.
GUMBY said
Seems like ANDY-WJM is no more, either they ripped all of us off and left or they were booted by ebay. Now I am out $15 :(, I opened a dispute today with paypal, hopefully I can get my money back. At least they cannot cheat anyone anymore!
Daxon said
Good news! “andy-wjm” (hello-9928) is no longer a registered member.
Although I am very worried now because all of the MP4’s I bought now do not exist on ebay anymore. I don’t know if I can get my money back now (£60+. 16 MP4 players) 😦
KittyFireFlash said
Daxon, did you fund the purchases with a credit card? You might want to call them and ask for a reversal of funds. This is a clear case of fraud.
hello-9928 aka Andy-wjm has climbed very high here. So many people have been frauded by this seller id(s).
Do not let eBay or PayPal get away with it. The fact is we issued an alert back in August 2009. They are very much aware of member complaints and they have absolutely no excuse.
Read this story: https://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2009/07/20/paypal-refunds-victim-of-fake-false-capacity-usb-flash-drives-purchased-on-ebay-8-month-battle-leads-to-success/
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Billie said
I had just found this site after I read the feedback on hello-9928, somebody suggested to google andy-wjm. I am very pissed off. Not because I’m out on money, which was only $7, but the point is that ebay has not protected its buyers. I paid for my item on June 22. Today, after finding this site and another, I have opened a dispute with ebay and paypal, and esculated the paypal dispute to a claim. They say to give them up to 20 days to contact the seller, YEAH RIGHT! I think that ebay should monitor what is being posted and when one item is spammed the way his was the account should be canceled immediatly. They are supposed to protect the buyers from things like this and they have done nothing besides tell you to go to the resolution center and wait..and wait..and wait some more. Bull $#*T. Well just wanted to voice my opion.
Jim said
Billie
you are perfectly right and i agreed with you…..
eBay knew that this guy is ripping off everyone who ever was in his plate. they should have stop him right then when they found negative feed back are rising . one guy 3 different account and top of that when he took all the money he changes F..king his ID.
How come ebay did not know this… …
I bought 10 item. f..king lost all the money . I am just one victim among many hundred. Now none of these name exits anymore on Ebay after F..king they took all the money from everyone.
And the item are not listed and Ebay wrote ….Oh this person is no longer available.. where the fuck is money now…
NO more HK and China for me……
ssme said
surely you can just file a paypal dispute and get the money back that way? they claim to pretty much guarantee it.
luckily, i got a full refund from best-ebay-sell for 9 items a couple of days before he went pop. i’m still waiting on the paypal disputes for 3 items from best-phone-sell and ebay-wei, a total of about £4, which should be resolved before the weekend as their time will be up.
i’m a bit disappointed that i only noticed these auctions so late on, when they’d actually stopped sending them out. even a 2gb player would have been better than nothing…
Llorond said
Yesterday I got the refund notice from Paypal, after they received no answer from andy-wjm for a certain time.
So I need not to get the money back from my credit card account.
But it really is amazing how the feedbacks turned red from one day to the other like an avalanche and burried that guy.
Rocket Ham said
Just a personal update,
I had opened 3 paypal disputes (all from andy-wjm) about 2 weeks ago and just received a full refund from paypal. I just wanted to thank everyone from this site for there help.Definitely will not make the same mistake again.
KittyFireFlash said
Good to hear Rocket Ham!
Your appreciation is why we continue to do what we do. It makes fighting this battle worthwhile.
ssme said
for the record, all my paypal disputes were resolved in my favour, all my money has been returned, so no actual harm has been done beyond the disappointment of not getting my damn mp3 players!
Pissed off M_Fer said
Found this sight while searching invain to find out why my sussposed 16gb mp3 player (the nand test says it only 4 gb) won’t play video . Bought this pile of shit from Member id fairdeal2 , he has a feedbaqck over 8000 so hes made alot of money selling shit .
Pissed off M_Fer said
You guys that opened disputes , did you have to mail the item back to china ?? If so how much did that cost you? did the seller have to cover that cost ??
Bradley said
I just got a letter from Ehong
SunYou Logistics Limited.
I don’t know what it contains
Jabalong said
Note that Sun You Logistics (http://www.sunyoulogistics.cn/) is only the freight forwarder. As such, they wouldn’t have anything to do with the quality of the products – they just take care of the shipping for whatever manufacturers choose to use them. To blame them for anything quality-related would be like blaming UPS or Fedex.