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Investigation On Seller Using eBay Id guruelectronics Continues At SOSFakeFlash

Posted by KittyFireFlash on February 15, 2009

The FrankenFlash Project’s, SOSFakeFlash group continues their investigation into a seller operating on eBay under the id of guruelectronics. This seller has been on the watch list for over five months as a suspect seller of false capacity usb flash drives. Rules require evidence before an alert to consumers can be issued on the internet. On February 8th, 2009, an alert was released: guruelectronics Ebay Fake Flash Seller Alert – USA as supporting data was now on file.

On February 12th, 2008 SOSFakeFlash received a threatening email from the seller operating under this id stating that he never sold false capacity usb flash drives and intended to inform one of the host sites about “slanderous” allegations. Immediately the FrankenFlash Project was contacted for assistence to dig deeper into this sellers behavior. More supporting data was collected. The most glaring suspect listing on eBay was suddenly removed from public viewing. As a result TechReporters was contacted to issue a call to eBay buyers to test any usb flash drive bought from this seller and photographs of the suspect drive presented. See Did You Buy a 16GB USB Flash Drive From guruelectronics On Ebay Recently?

It was thought seller had removed the listing. SOSFakeFlash has learned it was eBay who removed the listing. Here is what eBay replied to a victim (know under the nom de plume of BlueFacts) on eBay Seller guruelectronics’s disappearing listing:

Dear BlueFacts (,

Thanks for bidding on the Fixed Price listing:

180311915778 – New 16GB USB 2.0 Flash Memory Stick Pen Drive 16 GB G

Unfortunately, we had to remove this listing and cancel all bids. We don’t like to remove listings — it’s disappointing for everyone — but sometimes we need to do it.

There are three main reasons why we remove listings:
— The listing doesn’t follow eBay guidelines.
— The item isn’t allowed on eBay or can only be listed under certain conditions.
— The listing contains pictures or words that may create copyright or trademark issues.

If the seller is able to fix the problem and relist the item, we hope you’ll bid on it again.

Sometimes, instead of relisting an item, a seller will suggest that you buy it directly from him or her, off eBay. If that happens, please don’t accept. If anything goes wrong with the purchase, we won’t be able to help you.

— If you have questions —
Due to concerns about member privacy, we can’t share any details about why the listing was removed, but we’d be glad to answer any other questions you might have. Here’s the best way to contact us:
1. Click “Help” at the top of most eBay pages. You may need to sign in.
2. Click “Contact Us.”
You’ll be asked to describe what’s going on, and we’ll suggest the best way to get in touch.

We’re really sorry about the inconvenience.


eBay Trust and Safety team

Please don’t reply to this message. It was sent from an address that doesn’t accept incoming email.

Removing the listing evidence on guruelectronics is disappointing and frustrating for any eBay member who bought this item. The project does make an effort to record and preserve information precisely for this sort of reason. If you bought this drive, please test it immediately! Do not use it to store information unless you can confirm you have the advertised capacity – you are at risk of data loss.

There are signs eBay is struggling to address the problem of false capacity flash devices being sold there. Unfortunately removing the suspect listings does not assist victims. Still, every bit to progress to make eBay a fake flash free buying zone is postive. A six year problem can not be resolved overnight. Everyone’s effort and assistence is welcomed. SOSFakeFlash is preparing the first list of identified “safe” eBay sellers to be released shortly. You are invited to nominate sellers who have sold true capacity items, see: Did You Manage To Buy A Real USB Flash Drive – MP Player – Memory Card On eBay Or The Internet?


4 Responses to “Investigation On Seller Using eBay Id guruelectronics Continues At SOSFakeFlash”

  1. Kristin said

    I purchased a flash drive from this seller…as it turns out, it is a fake. My test results indicated that there was only about 4GB available and they specified that it was a 16GB drive. Thank you to the EBayers who are fighting against this, saving us money, and getting the frauds out of here.

  2. Kristin said

    Here are my test results…
    Warning: Only 4876 of 16363 MByte tested.
    The media is likely to be defective.
    174.3 MByte OK (357098 sectors)
    4.5 GByte DATA LOST (9628950 sectors)
    Details:73.1 MByte overwritten (149895 sectors)
    0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
    4.5 GByte corrupted (9479055 sectors)
    32.5 KByte aliased memory (65 sectors)
    First error at offset: 0x0000000000000000
    Expected: 0x0000000000000000
    Found: 0x00186a02aa55aa55
    H2testw version 1.3
    Writing speed: 11.8 MByte/s
    Reading speed: 12.2 MByte/s
    H2testw v1.4

  3. Helen said

    Hi Kristin, It would be helpful if you could get some other victims of this seller to test their drives and submit reports including their ebay ID, item number, seller ID and purchase date along with the results from h2testw to The frankenflash project is trying to gather as much evidence as possible against this nasty little piece of work.

  4. […] After having tested the item of course. If you don’t do this right away and the seller is caught, the listings will be removed and you will not be able to leave feedback. See the eBay email BlueFact received and recorded in: Investigation On Seller Using eBay Id guruelectronics Continues At SOSFakeFlash […]

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