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Alert – top789988 – Ebay Fake Flash Seller

Posted by KittyFireFlash on October 15, 2008

top789988 has been identified as an eBay seller of Counterfeit usb flash drives. Over 300+ flash drives in 8GB and 16Gb between September 2nd, 2008 and October 15th, 2008 have been sold. The 8GB drive investigated had a true capacity of only 1GB. top789988 refunded the eBayer immediately in full without arguement – it was not necessary to file a dispute with PayPal.

This seller is currently trying to hide from further detection by switching to private auctions and is violating eBay’s Policies for auctions under this category.

top789988 switched to private auctions after a number of eBayers had left negative feedback. When the eBayer who reported the drive to SOSFakeFlash with suppoting evidence, left negative feedback (to warn other eBayers), top789988 accused the buyer of having damaged the drive. The software H2testw can not damage a drive, it simply does in automated form what computer users do, write files, read files and verifys what was written.

We will present the counterfeit drive shortly for your viewing and inspection in this post – but first a word about private auctions.

Some think it is for their protection. It is not for your protection when the sale is a counterfeit flash drive. It is to protect the seller from being discovered. Several counterfeit sellers have done this: wholeselling-auctions, tcua80, tcua88. When eBayers dragged them to the dispute console they did refund – if with a bit of a struggle. One, tcua88, has been kicked off eBay – after having sold thousands – the only thing the seller ever sold – hidden or not.

eBay describes such an auction as:

Private Auction

When a seller creates a private listing, a buyer’s User ID does not appear in the listing or in the listing’s bid history. Only the seller is authorized to view the buyer User IDs associated with that listing. Examples of when sellers use this format include the sale of high-priced items, or approved pharmaceutical products.

Flash drives are not medical products. Private auctions are for high priced items, generally in the range of more than $150 US , usually $200 US and higher. A drive won at $15 US or even $40 US or even $70 US does not fall under the description from eBay.

While top789988 refunded the buyer in full, he switched to private auctions – demonstrating this seller is aware of selling counterfeit drives and has no intention of stopping to reap fake flash profits. This behavior is frequently observed when a fake flash seller is being found out by buyers. The seller will make a desperate attempt to prevent further negatives by hiding what he sells. It makes it more difficult for eBay and PayPal to detect.

Other recent sellers who tried continue selling fake flash by switching to this type of auction are whatcools and kaho.chan. The private auction listings were reported to eBay – by many eBayers – until eBay took action. whatcools has been suspended. kaho.chan no longer sells on eBay.

If you bought a drive from this seller you are at risk of data loss. Please test your drive immediately. If you do not have the advertised capactiy – file a claim with PayPal.

Leave negative feedback immediately and record the ebay item number in the feedback so other ebayers are able to access the listing. It is the only way you as a victim can prevent other eBayers from falling into this devious fake flash sellers pit.

  • October 15th, 2008 – we have 1 eBay listings confirmed fake.

This is the model sold under the eBay seller top789988 Confirmed as Counterfeit, recorded with eBayer ID and eBay Item Number – Standard Procedure. Presented as listed at auction. Counterfeit items tied to criminal activity enjoy no protection. If you bought one of these usb fake flash drives from top789988 , you should test immediately with the software H2testw 1.4 . Do not store any important data on the drive until you can confirm you have the advertised capacity.

This is the 8 GB Model sold by top789988.

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Should your drive not report the true advertised capacity:

  1. Immediately attempt to move any data you have stored on the drive to another source. Be advised if you have stored more than the reported size from H2testw 1.4, you will not be able to recover it all – you can expect to see errors in the copy back.
  2. Immediately report to eBay and PayPal to add your voice against this seller.

If the eBay Item number has disappeared from your won list. Please go to PayPal and search through your transactions for the approximate time frame of your purchase. You will find the details of your transaction and ebay item number. PayPal keeps this information for a long time. Use the email address:

PayPalComplaint

Please include:

  1. PayPal Transaction Number
  2. Ebay Item Number
  3. Date Of PayPal Transaction
  4. Date Of eBay Item Listing
  5. Your eBayer Id
  6. Cite eBay Seller top789988
  7. The results from your testing with H2testw 1.4
  8. Any information concerning data loss and it’s value to you

You are to inform them you wish to be part of the investigation against this seller and are adding yourself to the evidence. You expect to be fully refunded for the purchase and shipping and if you can prove data loss compensation for it as well. Furthermore, it is a fact that PayPal and eBay are aware of cases pouring in. You are invited to copy:

sos-email

on your correspondence.

To see top789988’s negative feedback please click here.

5 Responses to “Alert – top789988 – Ebay Fake Flash Seller”

  1. Comeon said

    The outer casing for the drives doesnt nessecarily mean the drive is a fake, You must Stress the use of H2testw more because there is no way of telling whats what with these generic pen drives

  2. kittyfireflash said

    This is indeed true. We stress in the guide written for eBayers that testing is absolutely necessary. At the moment the guide remains a controlled distribution. You can write an email to get it – see guides.

    You will find testing stressed in many posts. SOSFakeFlash is not interested in WITCH HUNTS against eBay sellers! Anything we publish in a report or alert, we can back up with evidence. It is also why our counts are low, about 5% or less of the true fake flash picture.

    We have an education category (see left column menu, after recent posts), we have published an article called “Flash Drive Education 101” – it is a shopping trip exercise to China to see what manufactures offer. This education is good, it shows the real sizes available, and the outer casings for drive models. Obviously they are very generic – but it won’t take a buyer long to realize that the outragious capacity sizes offered on eBay do not match with what the manufacturers offer. Conclusion? The innocent drives manufactured have been turned into FrankenFlash by SOMEBODY(S) – what we would like to know is WHO is doing it! Those are the real criminals – the eBay Fake Flash Sellers are just the distribution outlet to unleash the plague of data loss…

  3. mad teacher said

    Hmm – seems to me that many (if not most, or all) of the Hong Kong sellers know full well that they’re selling fakes. They may not be programming the chips themselves, but must know who they got the drives/chips from.

    It’s somewhat unfortunate that fake drives (swivel type) claiming to be anything from 4GB to 16GB look identical to genuine 2GB flash drives I bought from a seller in the UK.

  4. Comeon said

    For your information, at this moment in time, 16GB chips are not really sold in China, because their price is too expensive and most chip dealers don’t bother stocking them. A so called real 16GB is only made possible by using two 8GB chips, you can take this as a general rule and Pendrives made with single 16GB chips are not going to be selling at the prices they do on eBay. If something is too good to be true, then its a fake, not a two chip drive, not a counterfeit, but a Hacked bios to give a false reading. Greed by knows no bounds, either by the seller and the buyer!

  5. Comeon said

    Don’t just complain to PAYPAL get your credit card issuing bank involved, they trump PAYPAL.

    So if Barclays issued your card bitch to them, this way PAYPAL has to pay for chargeback fees, if you wanna understand how PAYPAL works understand that they work by percentage, if a seller costs them more then they earn from the seller then they banned the seller’s account. Actually PAYPAL aint even that dumb, they is a business, they’ll ban a seller before he or she starts losing Paypal money.

    So BITCH TO YOUR CREDIT CARD COMPANY once the investigation takes places PAYPAL is charged, and yes they’ll initially just pass on the fees to that particular seller, but threshold baby, if one dude proves to be a liability then he’s gone.

    And be an educated Consumer, think before you buy do your bloody research, Nothing comes for Free, if its too bloody good a deal there’s a good chance there’s something wrong.

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