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Toward A Fake Flash Drive Free World – No More Counterfeits – No More Data Loss

Contact & Us

sosfakeflashdrive@gmail.com or leave a comment for the readers to answer.

We are part of the FrankenFlash Project and to do the work being invisible is important. More information will be coming but the urgency for counterfeit flash awareness matters more. It is the priority.

Many people have lost money, some a lot. But….

It does not matter what price paid for the drive – who can put a price on data copied to it? Documents. Photos. Memories? If the source data has been deleted – these files are gone forever. The loss will mean different things to different people.

We are unable to reveal exactly what the data loss can mean or where it has occurred. A lot has to remain confidential. People’s jobs are at stake. Some could face court martials. There is no reason to make people victims a second time – the experience was traumatic enough.

It is frightening to learn just who has been a victim of counterfeit flash drives. Causal users to the most savvy about technology, together they tumble in the fake flash pit. Quiet a few have been rescued by the fake flash angels. No, we can’t elaborate on what that means – only almost all are victims of fake flash drives. It is not just buyers of fake flash on the warpath, sellers are too. Both are working together. Why? If you are a victim of Fake Flash it would be easy understand. If you have not been a victim, think of how you would feel if someone took a hammer to your hard disk or shredded or snapped all your data cd’s, dvds and old floppies – how would you feel about the loss?

See The post What is This Fake Flash All About?

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107 Responses to “Contact & Us”

  1. ian said

    Hello
    my final reply beore i raise a greivenace is below. Whatcools are the company/people.
    32 gb was not really a 32 gb and is about 7.7 gb , full of errors.
    You can inlcude my name in any publications in this dispute.
    Many Thanks
    Ian

    Hello
    Sorry I forgot to say this was his reply

    Dear igibbwiz,

    Thank you for your letter.
    So sorry for all the inconvenience caused.
    Please do not leave negative feedback or open dispute first.

    We are willing to refund the payment to you,.
    Could you please kindly help me to ship the item back . Since this item was made by my manufactory.So we really don’t know this affair at all.
    They would made big fun on us.

    Without the proof .my manufactory refuse to pay that loss.
    Hope you can understand my situation,

    Waiting for your quick response.
    Regards

    WC*

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    From: Ian Gibb [mailto:igibbwiz@yahoo.co.uk]
    Sent: 28 September 2008 11:50
    To: ‘eddiejharkin@btinternet.com’; ‘fakeflashebay@gmail.com’
    Subject: FW: Message from eBay Member Regarding Item #220277441535

    Hello both
    This is the status of my issues as of this morning, I had a request to send the item back as you indicated.
    You can see from my response below who my contract is with etc as I stated. My wifes job is law.
    Thank you both for you informative emails. It makes me feel uncomfortable as I never have had issues with anyone like this before, and I consider my self to fair and reasonable, and I would have sent the unit back had it not have been for your help.
    Tomorrow night for sure I will raise a grievance with ebay and paypal if I do not get a positive response. I just wanted to give the chap 1 more chance to do the right thing,
    I will keep in touch with you both about my progress, and again thank you for your help

    Ian

    From: eBay Member: igibbwiz [mailto:member@ebay.co.uk]
    Sent: 28 September 2008 11:44
    To: igibbwiz@yahoo.co.uk
    Subject: Message from eBay Member Regarding Item #220277441535

    eBay sent this message to ian gibb (igibbwiz).
    Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay. Learn more.

    Your question from an eBay member

    Do not respond to the sender if this message requests that you complete the transaction outside of eBay. This type of offer is against eBay policy, may be fraudulent, and is not covered by buyer protection programs. Learn More.

    Dear whatcools,
    **********************
    Hello
    thank you for the email reply.
    Unfortuanetly I can not resend as it is illegal in the uk to send counterfeit goods.
    Having said that my contractual agreement was and is with you and your company not you supplier so i there for request you resend the money to me.
    If you arrange for collection and pay for this service then I am happy to hand the item to the courier as then this is your reposnisibiliy and your request for the goods to be shipped, but I have to check this with my lawyer first that I am not breaking the law.
    But this should not cause any delays in you re crediting my paypal account. You will see from my feedback that I have never issues with any supplier,
    I wait to hear from you , however please be sure that tomorow night (monday night) i will raise the grevieance with ebay and paypal , if you do not agree to this and inform me the process has started in recrediting my account.
    Many Thanks
    Ian
    ps you could send me another one as long as you check it first
    - igibbwiz
    Item and user details
    Item Title: 32GB 32 GO USB 2.0 Flash Memory Pen Stick Drive GB G
    Item Number: 220277441535
    Item URL: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220277441535

    End Date: 06-Sep-08 16:47:00 BST
    From User: igibbwiz (30 )

    100.0% Positive Feedback
    Member since 12-May-05 in ??????
    Location: Blaenau Gwent, ??????
    Activity with igibbwiz (last 90 days): igibbwiz has bid on 0 of my items

    This message was sent while the listing was closed. igibbwiz is a winner.

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  2. Ivan said

    Hello,
    I bought a total of 32 16GB flash drives from ebay. Because I want to give them away to my family, at that price. I was wondering about the sellers:

    aaaiphone
    yyyshop2008
    yingping_888
    haoyunbeijing-2008
    qiongzhuzhijia

    Thanks!

  3. kittyfireflash said

    Ivan we will be contacting you. The only seller we have some evidence on that we are investigating is qiongzhuzhijia.

    Not only that, an eBayer sent a very disturbing response from this seller which we need to examine carefully for it’s validity. The seller threatened him with “death”. The details are not known yet. However we have two investigated fakes for this seller see the link on the left column called

    eBay Fakes – Sellers

    you can scroll to the seller and click on his name to launch a tool to see his negative feeback.

  4. FakeStopper said

    Hi Ivan,

    Let me tell you if you brought from ebay likely chances of getting a fake drive is over 98%. This is a sad sad figure especially for the dirve you getting and especially they are found mainland asia.

    I ask a seller a question, regarding his 32gb and 64gb to be ture capacity and guess what this seller responsed:

    “Dear friend, Thanks for your question. These are 2GB upgraded memory. It means that the available memory is 2GB, but it shows 32GB or 64GB in the computer. All of Dhgate sellers are selling upgraded usb drive. Frankly there isn’t any real 32G or 64G memory card in China, the biggest memory is just 16GB. Please feel free to contact us if any further question. Best regards, Customer Servics”

    Look how sad this is. And I still do not understand why ebay aren’t closing those fake seller account down.

  5. Ivan said

    I see… I’m glad that I only bought 1 item from qiongzhuzhijia. He said that he has shipped the item and he gave me the tracking number. As soon as I get I will check it and see if it’s fake or real! The other question is, will it be possible to get my money back if those drives are fake? Through ebay or paypal?

  6. Ivan said

    Oh oh! I might have been already ripped off. Take a look at yingping_888 profile. 1 negative, 0 positive! He might be selling fake drives! And I bought like 13 from him maybe more…

    http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=yingping_888&&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller&iid=220296718815&sspagename=VIP:feedback:2:us

  7. FakeStopper said

    You can get your money back through paypal if you paid it from there provided it within the time frame. I won’t be surprise if they are fake and from mainland asia. From the response I got from the seller it likely anything above 8GB are fake.

    If you need the guide to process your refund, please go to guide and email to that address.

  8. kittyfireflash said

    Please see the Flash Drive Education category. The 101 course will be a hands on exploration of what manufacturers offer in China for anyone interested. See for yourself. Don’t let sellers get away with saying it is the manufacturers fault…

  9. mad teacher said

    Readers of this page may find this interesting. Have a look at the Ebay listing for item 310092745474 – seller ID mallaussie – a buy it now at £30. This seller put the following in the listing:

    Q: Is this real 32 Gb or fake one?

    A: Yes, we did test it to be able to store 32 Gb, e.g. 8 movies of 4 gb into the pen drive, at a good speed. However, if used some testing software to test it, it may suggest 8 gb etc. If you believe your eyes, please feel free to bid. If you rather believe some softwares than your own eyes, please do NOT bid, and you would not find a ‘real’ 32 gb in the market at such a good price anyway. Thank you!

    Says everything you need to know, I think: basically, I think it says “yes, you idiot, of course it is a fake; but if you choose to fall for my weasil words, I will happily take your money from you!”

    I am filing a report to Ebay as follows:

    ……………………………………………………………………..
    The seller has listed the item as a 32GB flash drive – however the answer to a question (shown in the listing) reveals to anyone who is fully literate (both in language and IT) that the listing is fraudulent:

    Q: Is this real 32 Gb or fake one?

    A: Yes, we did test it to be able to store 32 Gb, e.g. 8 movies of 4 gb into the pen drive, at a good speed. However, if used some testing software to test it, it may suggest 8 gb etc. If you believe your eyes, please feel free to bid. If you rather believe some softwares than your own eyes, please do NOT bid, and you would not find a ‘real’ 32 gb in the market at such a good price anyway. Thank you!

    The seller seems to be trying to appear to be based in Australia, though actually based in Hong Kong. Inexperienced Ebayers could be misled.

    The seller is keeping things private – usually a sign of fraud when selling flash drives.
    ……………………………………………………………..

    Any comments?

  10. FakeStopper said

    What alot of bull s**t with that answer (sorry with the language) Just laugh my head off with that response.

    Basically the seller is saying yes I can put up to 32gb, but after 8gb you can’t open the file! woohoo..so my 24gb of data can’t be open! Hahaha that is just bulls**t!

    I really want to see ebay doing something about it. I email then on 19 October, and yet till now I still haven’t heard reply regarding why ebay continue to allow fakes usb drive.

  11. Ed said

    I’d been interested to find out if this 16Gb flash drive from an Amazon UK marketplace seller is genuine or fake – it certainly looks like one of the fake ones.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Flash-Memory-16GB-USB-DRIVE/dp/B001HNQGGG/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1224861144&sr=8-7

  12. Ivan said

    Wow! The sellers aaaiphone and yyyshop2008 are now unregistered users! I gotta start refunding my money with paypal!

  13. kittyfireflash said

    To Ed and your link in amazon.com, it is very hard to tell, there are no comments yet for the 16GB model. Several for the 8GB one and people are pleased. The issue is, the price for 16GB is very low – almost too good to be true. I’d wait to see comments from buyers.

    Only, unlike eBay, you can’t contact buyers to “Share” the buying experience to find out what they think if they test and in daily usage. Odd as this might seem, it is one of the very good things about eBay! You can share and trade experiences on a product.

  14. Rebwar said

    I purchased a 8GB flash memory it is fake and not working at all.

  15. nembokid said

    Hi,
    I do not know if the flashpens offered thru amazon are fake or not, but I have bought thru ebay and a seller from uk (see http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=220298879620&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=012) ,at a price equal or lower, a few 16GB USB Flashpens and they are not fake, they are not the fastest on the markets but they are not fake.
    The seller sent me also a quality report analysis made by an independent institute, and offer full warranty and full refund if not satisfied.

  16. nembokid said

    Hi again, sorry I forgot to say that when I was stating that those flashpens were good, is because I tested them thru 2 test programs, not only the well known H2testw.
    bye

  17. Ivan said

    I recivied my first flash out of 33 that I purchased! MADE A HUGE MISTAKE! the first one i checked is already fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 32 more fake coming~!!!!

  18. Dennis said

    To Ivan:
    Someone said (it was in Russian, I will try to translate):
    “If you can correct your mistake then you haven’t made a mistake yet.”
    Try to correct your mistakes, man. I believe that you can.

  19. mad teacher said

    Most UK sellers seem to be genuine – but wherever you buy flash from you should test!

  20. stevenb9275 said

    just a word of warning for your members the seller best2you886 is a conman he sold me a hacked 4gb stick made to look like a 16 gb he is still selling them now

    H2testw results

    The media is likely to be defective.
    3.9 GByte OK (8325352 sectors)
    11.6 GByte DATA LOST (24409880 sectors)
    Details:11.6 GByte overwritten (24409880 sectors)
    0 KByte slightly changed (< 8 bit/sector, 0 sectors)
    0 KByte corrupted (0 sectors)
    2 KByte aliased memory (4 sectors)
    First error at offset: 0×00000000fe11d000
    Expected: 0×00000000fe11d000
    Found: 0×00000000fe11c800
    H2testw version 1.3
    Writing speed: 6.40 MByte/s
    Reading speed: 16.3 MByte/s
    H2testw v1.4

  21. Alex said

    Dear Community! Please give me an advice.

    When I make a claim to PayPal for refund they said:

    To continue with the investigation of your complaint, we must request documentation to support your claim that the item is not authentic. Please obtain a document from an unbiased, third-party, such as a dealer,appraiser, or an organization that is qualified in the area of the item in question (other than yourself), which clearly identifies the item as not authentic. The document must specifically state how the item received differs from an authentic item and must include a detailed explanation of
    how the person evaluating the item determined that it is not authentic. If possible, the document should include a serial number, and must be on letterhead that includes the name, address, and phone number of the business or organization so that PayPal may contact them if necessary.

    Can you make me such document? What should I do?

    Regards!

  22. KittyFireFlash said

    Hi Alex,

    Please see the following comments:

    http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/paypal-apologizes-to-ebayer-ordered-return-counterfeit-items-using-postal-services-fake-flash-ebay-sellers/#comment-393

    http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2008/10/03/paypal-apologizes-to-ebayer-ordered-return-counterfeit-items-using-postal-services-fake-flash-ebay-sellers/#comment-394

    to help you. If you read on PayPal at this site you will quickly learn you are not dealing with a person or persons. But a mindless robotic emailer. They just have people fill out email templates with keywords. It is cheaper and does not require hiring a person with intelligence. It is becoming a favorite game now to avoid refunding people.

    It is not clear if you got this response from your original paypal claim or not. Please research the site, many members have left information on what you can do. We also have information in the left menu under paypal claims.

    To get a refund means having to fight. Some got their refunds quickly, some have had 3 month battles and a sea of emails. Much depends on whether you want to let Paypal and the fake flash seller keep your money….

  23. Geoff said

    Hi, just received a SONY MICRO VAULT 64G from ebay UK seller ads0s0. My suspicions where aroused when I tried to copy files over and got corruption etc. Finally looked up on google to check this drive and came up with your website. (Why did I not look before??? I didn’t used to be so gullible , SONY only do up to 16GB at present), have downloaded the checking software and am busy going through it now. Please advise any potential buyers of this ebayer. As he has at least 10 sales to his name, but and this is what fooled me has sold completely different goods so has good feedback, although only 26 at this time (22nd Dec 2008). Not sure if the seller is legit or just clever. Please advice.
    Thanks.

  24. KittyFireFlash said

    We’ve sent an email directly to you Geoff with advice – also next steps for your case. To issue an alert to warn buyers we will need the info described in the “Report a Fake” tab.

    Eveyone, UK seller – ads0s0 used private auctions. Also in the listings said:


    Full size capacity (not a smaller drive re-programmed to look a bigger size).

    You don’t have to bid with a seller in the Orient for a fake flash drive, they are just as easily found in your home country.

  25. Frank said

    Add some more Fake Sellers, bought 5 flash drive and everyone of them is a fake. Ebay and Paypal doing nothing to help. Over 23 days since I started filing claims and these sellers are still active on Ebay:

    shopwithmela (selling 16GB fake flash drives and 8GB MP3 that are only 1GB). jingpinwu688 (selling fake 16GB flash drives that are only 2GB).
    changshengzhubao666 (selling fake 16GB that are only 4GB).

    jianxiaoyong77@126.com who was selling fake 16GB and is not on ebay any more actually sent me a reffund.

    Where is the sign up sheet for the class action law suit against Ebay and PayPal.

  26. игорь said

    PnP Device ID: VID = 1221 PID = 3234
    Serial Number: 2008122100060859
    Revision: 2.20

    Device Type: Standard USB device – USB2.0 High-Speed

    Chip Vendor: micov
    Chip Part-Number: MXT8208

    Product Vendor: (N/A)
    Product Model: (N/A)

    нашел програму к этой флешке UdTools1.0.4.6_20081010 что то сдела с флеш теперь он ее не видет этой программой но когда встовляю происходит звук подключения и в деспетчере устройст ее видно а в мой комп не видно и в програме тоже флешка на 16gb я могу ее еще востоновить

  27. chris roberts said

    ebay seller. rongcle fake 16gb pen drive.
    tested with H2testw. actually 2gb. i have filed with ebay and paypal and await with not much hope. uk sellers only from now

    many thanks
    chris

  28. ramesh chander said

    Sir
    i have 32 GB flash drive with belown mentiond detail
    URGENT HELP REQUIRD

    Device Name: +[F:]+USB Mass Storage Device(Hisun Flash Disk USB Device)

    PnP Device ID: VID = 2008 PID = 2168
    Serial Number: 2008112009201310
    Revision: 2.80

    Device Type: Standard USB device – USB2.0 High-Speed

    Chip Vendor: (No match record)
    Chip Part-Number: (No match record)

    Product Vendor: Hisun
    Product Model: Flash Disk

    Tools on Web: (N/A)

  29. kittyfireflash said

    HI Remesh

    If it is possible, please with care, open the drive if you can. Then look for a little square chip. That is the controller. Write down what it says. Then look for the long chip, that is the flash drive. Write down what it says. The most important information is the controller chip. Based on that you can find a software program to help you. See the site http://fixfakeflash.wordpress.com/ afterwards. Look to see if there is information. The main post can help you.

    Some time they reprogram with false VID and PID. This why in your case you must carefully try to open the drive and find out what it is. This will help you to see if there is a solution. The most important information is the controller chip, not the flash drive. Reflash programs especially if most recent will detect the flash drive chip you have.

    Let us know your results.

  30. geoff said

    ebay know this is going on. they sent me warning on 31-1-09 telling me not to buy, pity cos i bought on 20-1-09. are we doing a mass court case against ebay or are we going to get then on tv in watchdog

    regards

  31. Hi can anyone help me I am trying to fix:

    Device Name: +[F:]+USB Mass Storage Device(USB 2.0 USB Device)

    PnP Device ID: VID = 058F PID = 6387
    Serial Number: 5BDC0177
    Revision: 8.00

    Device Type: Standard USB device – USB2.0 High-Speed

    Product Vendor: USB
    Product Model: 2.0

    Can anyone help me with a link to fix this flash drive please.

    Thank you as I am pulling my hair out xx

  32. Bond James Bond said

    In my Kingston Data Traveller 32GB when I tried to format, its shown Windows is unable to format the disk.

    And when I tried for formatting by Hp Windows Format Utility for USB Drive Key its shown Write Protected.

    Please help for correct it.

    Shown msg by chipgenius.

    Device Name: +[G:]+USB Mass Storage Device(Generic Flash Disk 2.0 USB Device)

    PnP Device ID: VID = 5136 PID = 4678
    Serial Number: 5&&24BE2444&&0&&2
    Revision: 2.30

    Device Type: Standard USB device – USB2.0 High-Speed

    Chip Vendor: micov
    Chip Part-Number: MW6208

    Product Vendor: (N/A)
    Product Model: U

    Tools on Web: http://bbs.mydigit.cn/read.php?tid=72332

    Thanks

  33. Elias said

    I already reported arifqammar on ebay and paypal.I contacted with the seller and he says to send it back and he will send me full refund.Then I checked his ebay items and it was nothing for auction on.So he is going to delete his account sooner or later and of course he won’t refund me for real.Should I wait for ebay to reply my report?Should I leave him a bad feedback now?

    What should I do?

    Tnx for your patience

  34. KittyFireFlash said

    To Elias

    Make sure you file a claim with paypal if you have not. Also, do you still have the packaging for the item? The envelop? Compare it with the address you may have received from paypal. 99% of the time the addresses don’t match or are not the same.

    The paypal ones are usually wrong and incomplete. Designed by the fake flash seller to “punish” an ebayer for filing a claim. Naturally when a eBayer breaks the postal laws of their country by returning the fake/counterfeit it goes to never never land and the fake flash seller can for once tell the truth:

    “I did not receive it!”

    So no refund. The ebayer fake flash victim is even poorer now.

    You may have to fight PayPal and eBay and email them as much as they email you. They know only too well about the problem but like the fake flash sellers they want to keep the money. Sad.

    If you have the addresses on the seller send them in or post them at the site for all to see.

  35. elias said

    The address on the envelope is Huzhni 10A KB52,Lugansk 91006 Ukraine

    paypal doesnt mention any address.

    Ebay just Lugansk, Lugansk, Ukraine

  36. i have a discovered a massive ring of not only counterfiets but they are all connected giving themselves feedback – this is the email i sent to ebay a few days ago some of these users are powers sellers & it just so happens that i recieved a 32gb of them last weeks & it was a 4gb – i dont know who is the leader here but its obvious its 1 person behind it all

    i sent a mail to you earlier regading 2 sellers hellopetpet & maya.city as they are selling counterfeit goods & misusing the feedback system as all sellers were leaving feedback directly after they bought – after more investiation i have found that all of the feedback members are involved in what seems to be a massive ring – totally abusing ebay & they are all leaving feedback for one another too gain high feedback so they can sell there counterfeits so here is all the users potentially involved

    barcookbie, jordandix, reggiearthur, replaybaypay, wangtigerteam, cocoleenut, staryknight555, busdrivenac, rocketstepf, chrismasonma, gogoarmstrong, maloneymar, webchalie, bobbybrown300, madhermanson , barrymark33 , hahahamatt , mmmillermmm , dogdonaldog , noahdrive , davidsonlop , foyleaa , mikecandun, tnmagazine , woddybrown, yummiewong666, meimeiyiyiyi, keykeywest , babyjohnsonbon , hhhhouse147, bellrosemary, mandygirl868, sillygal666 , amrysee , samson4328, moreandmore789 , johnson3843 , fiona-1986 , terrence6720 , bright9382 , babyfree45 , bigjohnjohn2, bonebone539 , lorryhome4109 , kittygirl6419 , maymaybe2938 , adams0574 , yuenchou574 , leungwai293, hahabuy2923 , janicebaby293 , stephen10293 , sammi90445 , carlosbaute9, tommy2939 , moonmoon3848 , taisound2495 , timstockdale6 , kittywaiwah23, amoslee787 , johnmiller8818 , nicolalongfellow3315 , ralfekenwyn753 , bamberchorley6431 , kyleilly, morridavid, coverseemark, dwightheart, jordandix, barcookbie , reggiearthur , replaybaypay , wangtigerteam , maloneymar , hahahamatt , mmmillermmm, dogdonaldog , noahdrive , davidsonlop , foyleaa , mikecandun , cocoleenut, staryknight555 , busdrivenac , barrymark33, keyonpencil, hall of sell, elect-republic, simply-item, remote-purchase, click.your.mouse, low-cost-area, golden pen, cool.park, crispy garlic, vanilla-marketm ren-ren-buy, creative_square, hellobonnie02345, crossing-deal, ralfekenwyn753, hall.of.sell,rockerstepf, chrismasonma, webcharlie, bobbybrown300, madhermanson, taisound2495

  37. FakeStopper said

    Matthew

    That’s so true, I just click and investigate the first seller “barcookbie” and I cannot believe how many connection he has with so many other sellers.

    This is a TRUE scam! It an abusive to ebay feedback system. Why can’t ebay even figure this out! It just took me less than 2 minute and you can find so many connection!

    To eBay

    Please WAKE UP and listen. Don’t sit on you butt and stare at the computer! Do something and actually monitor your site. Don’t just sit and count all the fees you earning! You are just creating a SCAM site!! DO something about it instead of pretending and close your eyes and wishing we will leave you alone! No way are we going to do that! We can’t stand the fraustration people have over your “so-call” policy and your action in dealings with fraudster! We can’t even stand you sister company “Paypal” either with holding the money for as long as they can! This is not ethical and is not how people do business!

    WAKE UP and LISTEN!

  38. Uks Watchdog have now got hold of my story so im hoping this gets exposed next week – cant wait to see what ebay have to say

  39. maya.city hard at work yet again creating new accounts here are some new gang members

    dwigtheart, coverseemark, morridavid, kyleilly, drhons, keyonpencil, fredhooper610, johnsmith923, www_3phone_info, 2-highway

    previous list

    hellopetpet, maya.city, barcookbie, jordandix, reggiearthur, replaybaypay, wangtigerteam, cocoleenut, staryknight555, busdrivenac, rocketstepf, chrismasonma, gogoarmstrong, maloneymar, webchalie, bobbybrown300, madhermanson , barrymark33 , hahahamatt , mmmillermmm , dogdonaldog , noahdrive , davidsonlop , foyleaa , mikecandun, tnmagazine , woddybrown, yummiewong666, meimeiyiyiyi, keykeywest , babyjohnsonbon , hhhhouse147, bellrosemary, mandygirl868, sillygal666 , amrysee , samson4328, moreandmore789 , johnson3843 , fiona-1986 , terrence6720 , bright9382 , babyfree45 , bigjohnjohn2, bonebone539 , lorryhome4109 , kittygirl6419 , maymaybe2938 , adams0574 , yuenchou574 , leungwai293, hahabuy2923 , janicebaby293 , stephen10293 , sammi90445 , carlosbaute9, tommy2939 , moonmoon3848 , taisound2495 , timstockdale6 , kittywaiwah23, amoslee787 , johnmiller8818 , nicolalongfellow3315 , ralfekenwyn753 , bamberchorley6431 , kyleilly, morridavid, coverseemark, dwightheart, jordandix, barcookbie , reggiearthur , replaybaypay , wangtigerteam , maloneymar , hahahamatt , mmmillermmm, dogdonaldog , noahdrive , davidsonlop , foyleaa , mikecandun , cocoleenut, staryknight555 , busdrivenac , barrymark33, keyonpencil, hall of sell, elect-republic, simply-item, remote-purchase, click.your.mouse, low-cost-area, golden pen, cool.park, crispy garlic, vanilla-marketm ren-ren-buy, creative_square, hellobonnie02345, crossing-deal, ralfekenwyn753, hall.of.sell,rockerstepf, chrismasonma, webcharlie, bobbybrown300, madhermanson, taisound2495

  40. address for hellopetpet

    :Room 1022, 10/F, Pang Ching Court, Wong Tai Sin, Hong Kong

  41. so we had hellopetpet selling the 32gb fake transcend stick last week – i have now found golden_pen( 74) Item number: 270356203252 selling this fake stick – pls see my gang list above & guess whose there yes its golden_pen – i dont think ill ever buy from ebay again – pre warned them last week of my list – they have now given me a suspension for 3days for all my efforts – thanks ebay – lets just see how many buyers will get scammed by golden_pen..

  42. KittyFireFlash said

    What?

    Matt, you toil away doing their work and your reward is a suspension?

    The project has been saying for a long time, that eBay is insincere. Since spring of 2008 people have tried emailing, calling eBay. Over and over again.

    It is amazing! They don’t go after the suspect sellers but they do have time to tie eBay members to the stake and light the match for trying to help and to warn eBay.

    They can be mean and vindictive. Let’s face it – they don’t want the truth to be known.

    Most people when they first begin to warn eBay actually have faith and belief that they will address. Saddly they soon learn the ugly truth. If a person persists, or moves things to the next level as you did (make it simple – spoon feed them a list of obvious suspects) – their little claws come out.

    eBay is determined to protect her little brood of fake flash sellers. We’ve done a lot of reflecting recently and researching.

    See http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2009/02/26/ebay-fake-flash-sellers-of-mp-players-usb-flash-drives-memory-cards-about-their-ids/

    There is a lot of money involved. And to get into China, eBay may have mortgaged whatever little soul she had. As a result she may be dancing on hot coals. She can not afford to offend the big powersellers over there. She can no longer ignore the project. What to do? So it seems eBay is lashing out and of course in the WRONG DIRECTION!

    ethics and money don’t mix well – and for eBay from our observations, those two words can not be in the same sentence.

    Your wanting to vote with your feet – exit eBay for good is not new. So many victims have done just that.

    Everyone

    We published an article on Private Auctions, and there is a section “medicinal value or psychological value fake flash device acquistion under Private Auctions on eBay has had so far” It pretty much summarizes what we have seen the effects to be on members.

    http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2009/01/21/ebay-private-auction-listings-ebay-fake-flash-sellers-prefer-victims-learn-the-meaning-the-hard-way-a-guide/

  43. matthew steele said

    I have been in touch with the General Manager of Transcend today as I was not getting any conttact from there website – The general Manager has asked for a mail today so here it is ill keep my eyes peeled now just to see if anything is done especially the four listings that are active

    To the general Manager

    I would like to bring to your attention a massive scam that’s happening on Ebay at this time – My Ebay username is Matt.Steele & I bought a 32gb transcend V30 (green) stick 2 weeks ago from a seller in Hong Kong – this was sold as genuine by the way – The seller is able to fake the stick into thinking the stick is 32gb but after testing I soon discovered the stick was not 32gb & with a tool called H2testw 1.4 – I found it was only a 3.4gb stick – so I left bad feedback & have now claimed via Paypal & notified your worldwide offices 2 weeks ago..

    I have now uncovered a massive ring of ebayers selling this fraudulent stick & notified ebay of my findings well over a week ago but they have put a suspension on my account as they obviously want these sellers to continue selling which is why I have called your offices today as action needs to be taken

    I would like you to see the following item numbers on ebay as these are current – I have also reported to ebay these items but they are still up for sale

    Item number: 170309659939

    Item number: 270356203252

    Item number: 270356662172

    Item number: 220374918824

    now we have so many sellers in this ring that we have a few that are active at present but there are likely to be another 90 or so waiting to sell – I just feel a shame as people are leaving good feedback because there computer says its 32gb when they put stick in but as I say its clever software . I have told UK watchdog my story as Ebay do not want to contact me or even look at this problem but I have managed to try & warn others on the following link pls pls read

    http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/2009/03/11/counterfeit-transcend-jetflash-v30-usb-flash-drives-sold-on-ebay-hong-kong-seller-ring/

    http://fakeflashnews.wordpress.com/2009/03/08/transcend-32gb-counterfeit-usb-flash-drive-found-on-ebay-latest-brand-name-to-impacted-jetflash-v30/

    now if you want to stop this from happening you must look at this mail I sent ebay on 6th march it lists the fraudsters which I posted on http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/contact-us/#comment-1089

    1. matthew steele said
    March 6, 2009 at 18:16

    i have a discovered a massive ring of not only counterfiets but they are all connected giving themselves feedback – this is the email i sent to ebay a few days ago some of these users are powers sellers & it just so happens that i recieved a 32gb of them last weeks & it was a 4gb – i dont know who is the leader here but its obvious its 1 person behind it all

    i sent a mail to you earlier regading 2 sellers hellopetpet & maya.city as they are selling counterfeit goods & misusing the feedback system as all sellers were leaving feedback directly after they bought – after more investiation i have found that all of the feedback members are involved in what seems to be a massive ring – totally abusing ebay & they are all leaving feedback for one another too gain high feedback so they can sell there counterfeits so here is all the users potentially involved

    barcookbie, jordandix, reggiearthur, replaybaypay, wangtigerteam, cocoleenut, staryknight555, busdrivenac, rocketstepf, chrismasonma, gogoarmstrong, maloneymar, webchalie, bobbybrown300, madhermanson , barrymark33 , hahahamatt , mmmillermmm , dogdonaldog , noahdrive , davidsonlop , foyleaa , mikecandun, tnmagazine , woddybrown, yummiewong666, meimeiyiyiyi, keykeywest , babyjohnsonbon , hhhhouse147, bellrosemary, mandygirl868, sillygal666 , amrysee , samson4328, moreandmore789 , johnson3843 , fiona-1986 , terrence6720 , bright9382 , babyfree45 , bigjohnjohn2, bonebone539 , lorryhome4109 , kittygirl6419 , maymaybe2938 , adams0574 , yuenchou574 , leungwai293, hahabuy2923 , janicebaby293 , stephen10293 , sammi90445 , carlosbaute9, tommy2939 , moonmoon3848 , taisound2495 , timstockdale6 , kittywaiwah23, amoslee787 , johnmiller8818 , nicolalongfellow3315 , ralfekenwyn753 , bamberchorley6431 , kyleilly, morridavid, coverseemark, dwightheart, jordandix, barcookbie , reggiearthur , replaybaypay , wangtigerteam , maloneymar , hahahamatt , mmmillermmm, dogdonaldog , noahdrive , davidsonlop , foyleaa , mikecandun , cocoleenut, staryknight555 , busdrivenac , barrymark33, keyonpencil, hall of sell, elect-republic, simply-item, remote-purchase, click.your.mouse, low-cost-area, golden pen, cool.park, crispy garlic, vanilla-marketm ren-ren-buy, creative_square, hellobonnie02345, crossing-deal, ralfekenwyn753, hall.of.sell,rockerstepf, chrismasonma, webcharlie, bobbybrown300, madhermanson, taisound2495

    1. matthew steele said
    March 10, 2009 at 20:23

    so we had hellopetpet selling the 32gb fake transcend stick last week – i have now found golden_pen( 74) Item number: 270356203252 selling this fake stick – pls see my gang list above & guess whose there yes its golden_pen – i dont think ill ever buy from ebay again – pre warned them last week of my list – they have now given me a suspension for 3days for all my efforts – thanks ebay – lets just see how many buyers will get scammed by golden_pen..

    so I have got a suspension & unable to contact other memebers who have got conned by this fraud – but am hoping you have the power to shut it down

    if you want to call me ild be happy to talk

    p.s have also tried to get these sticks banned on Ebay Vero programme but ebay are turning there back on me!!

    matt steele

  44. I have now made contact with an Ebayer who bought a 16gb card Item number: 270351208316 & he confirmed to me running the h2testw that his stick is a fake 4gb – seller was Maya.City.. so we now have the evidence – unfortuatly this buyer had left good feedback before realising his mistake – the buyer also advises that he has reported the fake on SOS -

  45. FakeStopper said

    Matt,

    I am very ashame of ebay action. I strongly cannot understand why they suspended your account for the sack that you were only raising an issues and warn them about suspected sellers. Why are they contradicting themselves, they advertise to be safe and if member suspected anything, to report to ebay straight away. And yet you did that, you contacted ebay and let them know your suspision. Why did they take it the other way? This can only proof they are only keen to hide the evidence as long as they can.

    What was their reason behind the suspension?

  46. they advised that i had breached their policy – i have tried to get more info but they have not come back to me – i must have sent ebay 10-20 mails & not a peep out of them – my suspension was only 3 days so ill check later as it should be back..

  47. Maya.City No Longer Registered – are ebay listening or has he not payed his bill??

  48. yes i think the banning has finally started

    click.your.mouse no longer registered
    creative_square no longer registered
    hall.of.sell no longer registered
    ren-ren-buy no longer registered
    golden_pen no longer registered
    maya.city no longer registered

  49. Mary said

    The item I bought from ren-ren-buy this morning has disappeared from my won list. I paid for it straight away like I usually do. Now I don’t think I will get it and it seems it’s probably a fake anyway. What should I do? All his listings have gone but he still seems to be a member so ebay haven’t de-registered him.

  50. So my theory is that my mail to transcend has had the needed action – but i will find out tommorrow when i speak to there gen,manager – not the best of news for me as it seems the active listing of transcend products are no more & all offenders are no longer registered – but as hellopetpet had no active listings today i believe no action was taken so we may have got rid of a few but my list is still at large with some of the others i named in not only a feedback ring but also getting them by fake sticks – I will now work overtime to get the rest rid so i can concentrate on other potential set ups

  51. Mary said

    Hi folks – here is a copy of a message I sent to ebay about this:

    I bought (and paid immediately for)a USB flash drive from ren-ren-buy under 24 hours ago. It has vanished from my won item list. The seller is still an ebay member but all listings have suddenly vanished.
    What is going on? Did ebay remove the seller’s items? Did the seller remove the listings? What happens if my item does not arrive or it does arrive and turns out to be a fake capacity drive? As the listings are gone I can’t even report the item or open a dispute about it if there is a problem. Please advise.

  52. ren-ren buy was selling counterfeits my guessing is ebay have banned him or suspended his account

    i would put in a claim via paypal as item not recieved explain seller is no longer valid – & escalate into a claim & youll have your money back -if you do recieve pls check stick with the h2testw

  53. whilst ebay have trashed out a few of the ring members new ones are beginning to appear – the mastermind behind the ring must be quite thick as his flow of false feedback & new names that are bought in only exposes the larger power sellers.. I want you all to look at fiona-1986 how did our mastermind register another uk member – feedback for fiona shows another transcend 32gb counterfiet seller cool.park who is currently selling item 270357170821 – fiona has also highlighted other gang members once again elect-republic ( 473), crispy_garlic ( 612), low-cost-area ( 160), vanilla-market ( 170) , simply-item ( 306).

    johnson3843 ( 38) can also be added to the new members list & yes the above members leave feedback in the same way.. if ebay had listened to me almost 3 weeks ago they would not be in this mess now – i gave them clear insight what this bunch was up to & they not only ignored but have ripped off the uk & world ebayers of there hard earned money with these counterfeit sales. now all please take note to this ebay Notice & yes you can LOL

    eBay is committed to the fight against counterfeit products because:

    Trust in our site is undermined by the presence of counterfeits
    It’s illegal
    Buying a counterfeit is a bad consumer experience
    Honest sellers face lower average selling prices
    At eBay, we’re constantly looking at better ways to prevent counterfeit sellers from trading on our site, including:

    Proactively removing blatant counterfeits
    Removing items reported to us as counterfeit by over 18,000 brand owners
    Removing counterfeit sellers from the site
    Working closely with Law Enforcement to prosecute offenders
    Enforcing selling limits on items favoured by counterfeiters
    Restricting seller activity in certain categories
    Providing free tools for Right Owners to efficiently identify and report items
    Key Stats:

    Counterfeits are a global challenge, with some estimates claiming they account for over seven per cent of world trade
    In 2007, 2.2 million potentially counterfeit listings were removed across all eBay sites
    We also eBay suspended approximately 50,000 sellers and blocked 40,000 previously suspended sellers from coming back
    Virtually 100% of the reported listings judged to be counterfeit are removed, 95% of them before the listing ends, 90% within 12 hours, and the majority of them within 4 hours
    eBay spends over £10 million annually on maintaining a safe site and has over 2,000 employees around the world to help with the fight against counterfeits
    In 2007, we trained 7,000 law enforcement officials and assisted in over 66,000 investigations and in the arrest or conviction of over 500 individuals

  54. Paul said

    Hi,

    I appear to have two 16GB SDHC cards from phonebase113 which won’t format in my camcorder and at least one seems to contain the Win32:Small-LYJ trojan (Avast’s name for it). I can’t find any reference to this on your site but I do see reference to viruses in his -ve feedback. Is this something new and do you have any advice?

    All the best,

    Paul.

  55. KittyFireFlash said

    To Paul

    We’ve heard about viruses too, but have little information on. We do know that reprogramming is a “back alley” kind of operation, probably farmed out to people on a piece or lot basis. There are a lot of desperate unemployeed people or those trying to earn a little extra cash on the side. The tools often come from download sites that are not screened for viruses.

    We are not condoning what the reprogrammers are doing. It is possible that many do not fully understand the ramifications of what they are doing. They are not the ones making the big profits, the distributors and sellers do.

    We have had reports a few odd reports over the months where fake flash sellers received flak from buyers not getting their orders and where the sellers complained back saying their “computers” were down for some time due to viruses entering the system. Hmmm…

    When it comes to viruses – it is good to get a second opinion – run an online scanner. There are flash positives sometimes. Programs that interact with low level hardware are often flagged this way. It depends on what the settings are for a computer.

    Are you able to remove the virus with Avast? I’d be very careful here. A low level reflashing of the memory card should wipe it. See the other posts on repairing advice.

    If I had a report of a trojan on a memory card or usb drive I would remove it quickly from my computer. I would only try a repair perhaps on a machine that was not important to me. The hours trying to clean a machine and the paranoia panic that goes with it isn’t worth the pounds lost to a fake flash purchase.

    Not all reprogamming or hacking is quality work.

    Has anyone else had virus and trojan cleaning experiences to share?

    PS my little fleet of fake flash usb drives that were repaired are used as ambulances – clean up kits for infected computers that have to be taken off the internet. I don’t trust them for important data storage. File transfer and high risk situations are their new duties.

  56. The Hong Kong ring is no more now just spotted the last few which are no longer registered – thanks to sosflash for highlighting the issue with the transcend stick – & finally ebay for realising they had made a mistake although i got no apology from them for my short suspension – more fraudsters to fish now – but thanks all the crew for your hard work

    matt

  57. gazduire said

    never bought from ebay and will not buy soon, i consider is pretty risky, for less few bucks does not worth the risk for me… especially with flash drives.

  58. Anton Bolfa said

    Help me please, want to purchase wholesale usb-flash with a volume higher what 16 GB and to that is now at the market. Send a heap all with suggestions to 128/240/360/500 GB . Give the addresses of company which do not cheat. Help quickly buy in from 3000 to 60 000 $ in a month.

  59. FlashChipTutor said

    To Anton

    The FrankenFlash Project is not involved in sales and we do not keep track of companies that are genuine.

    Please read up on:

    http://flashdrivefacts.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/what-are-the-real-costs-for-flash-chips-in-china-guide-2009/

    There is no such thing as a real usb flash drive (pen stick) in the capacities of: 128/240/360/500 GB . There will not be for a long time. 128GB is on the drawing board but will not be available for a long time.

    Right now the highest available to consumers are 32GB and 64GB. These sizes are still being worked on to improve them. They are also expensive. The bigger the size the more you can expect to pay. The higher the flash chip is in size the higher the price. The largest flash chip made right now is 16GB and so you need four of them to get a 64GB flash drive.

    People unfortunately think there is a lot of money to be made selling usb flash drives (pen sticks) – the sad truth is for genuine ones, there is not a very high profit margin. It is small. It is made up for by selling in high volume.

    Anton, please contact the brand name manufacturers for assistence on who you might deal with and who might be a good provider. You might want to consider becoming one of their authorized distributors.

    One should NOT confuse usb flash drives (pen sticks) with SSD – Solid State Drives. SSD are flash drives which are in fact hard disks, only using a different technology than the old mechanical ones we are familiar with. More info is planned as education at the new site in the next months. SSD flash drives are made in much larger capacites. They can be as they can be the size of hard disks. Pen sticks can not, they are small and thin. SSD flash drives in high capacities are not cheap either.

    It is a myth that there is a lot of money to be made selling usb flash drives – or at least the genuine ones. We know from honest sellers. Some right now, are being forced to sell them below cost to try and recover at least part of their investment. Why? Because they bought at higher prices and could not move their stock because of the all the fraudsters and scammers selling cheap for fakes! So they are trying to leave selling flash usb drives as soon as they clear their stock. The cost of being honest, is having lost a lot of money.

    Anton please contact genuine brand names to discuss. Find out what you could expect to make as an authorized reseller. You probably will not make more than $5 per flash drive. Not sure. You can see what happened to one honest seller in this article:

    http://flashdrivefacts.wordpress.com/2009/03/21/usb-flash-drives-best-price-bargains-fair-value-to-sell-or-buy-8gb-16gb-32gb/

    The flashdrivefacts site is trying very hard to keep people out of trouble or getting into it. Instead of chasing fake flash sellers as a rule, it is trying to be preventative and to educate people about the truth. To stop or reduce the problem BEFORE it happens for both buyers and resellers.

    To Everyone

    The ultimate goal of the FrankenFlash Project is? A fake flash free world. It is a wonderful technology. A needed and useful technology but it should not be abused by people out to make a quick profit at the expense of others and causing what we call “Data Poison” . This reprogamming plague has caused so much harm – financial loss and data loss. So far within the eBay world over 60 countries have been impacted. It has hit government institutions, many small businesses and computer users like you and I.

    Selling flash based items can lead to a modest profit but it is not going to lead to hugh profits.

  60. Anton Bolfa said

    Hello Said
    Thank you for a help and bezopastnost’ but all the same then say where to search the honest salespeople of USB with whom to trade, where not deception . Who have such salespeople tested ! you can help me quickly salespeople are then needed to 64 GB but again boishsya to get on thieves.If it is possible send the copy of answer on my mail

  61. DS said

    Just a question, the contat info you provided for paypal:
    complaint-response@pay pal.co.uk
    Europeanservices@pay pal.com
    service@pay pal.co.uk

    I assume it’s UK only, is the same address valid if I want to contact the “main branch” of paypal? Or is th main branch located at UK?

  62. KittyFireFlash said

    To DS

    It is best you check inside your PayPal account for your local address. The general address is complaint-response@paypal.com

    We get addresses from victims. Contacting PayPal is not something they have made easy to do. Check your account to find information for your region. If you don’t find telephone numbers send them a message asking for them. Keep the emails as documentation proof. Their email robots are not that bright and if they fail to respond in a timely manner you will need proof. Post the info for your country if you like to help others.

  63. harcrid said

    I bought a 16Gb USB Drive Pen Memory Stick on 19th.March, 2009. It arrived on 31st.March and was a fake, not able to store or tranfer Data. I requested an £11 refund from Guople who promised a replacement ASAP. It hadn’t been received by 20th.April so I have complained to PayPal. When I tried to leave Feed Back on Ebay today it says that Guople are no longer a Registered Ebay Trader. A success, but appolly are still offering same items.

  64. KittyFireFlash said

    To Harcrid

    So you noticed that too, about guople and appolly? Well there are previous incarnations with exactly the same calling cards:

    appolly
    caipemz
    dengkimz
    guople
    lxmei98
    mdongdisk119
    pangoal
    wusimz

    Guople is now in the suspended most likely “retired” id list. But you are right appolly is still tredding water under powerseller status. Only eBayers can pull him under by contacting buyers to test and race to the paypal dispute console and of course adding another NEGATIVE IN FEEDBACK to wall him in.

    To Everyone

    When eBay suspends a seller – deregister and you can’t leave feedback, you can always leave your negative feedback here at SOSFakeFlash. Use the search box and type in the sellers name and if there is an alert on him, comment away!

    If there isn’t one yet, do two things: find a post to leave a comment on and of course report your fake to us.

    We can and do issue alerts on sellers even if dated. Why? You would be suprised how people find them and report in, months after the purchase. You don’t forget the ebay seller who sold you a fake very easily. Especially if and when you start to lose your files. They are lighthouses. Sign posts preserving the truth.

  65. Randy said

    Looks like Fake Flash Drives are now appearing on Amazon.com. Will be interesting to see if they handle the situation better than EBay/Paypal.

    http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Traveler-64GB-Flash-Drive/product-reviews/B001OR8HMQ/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

    This site refers back to SOSFakeFlash :

    http://www.brighthub.com/computing/hardware/articles/33110.aspx

    Interesting post about the 64GB Kingston drives being repackaged 2GB Kingston drives.

  66. Anton Bolfa said

    Hello Said.
    Thank you for that you talk where deception, but there is a question and where to purchase and ukogo to purchase then usb .Ya already to you zadoval question but you answered me nothing. Say for whom in kitae it is then possible to buy a commodity?

  67. kittyfireflash said

    To Anton

    We have given you suggestions in previous replies to your comments. SOSFakeFlash is not a sales and marketing organization. S O S – is rescue, advice and warning to aid consumers and sellers in avoiding or addressing the consequences of having purchased these MP Players, memory cards or usb flash drives.

    The response to you in http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/contact-us/#comment-1543 did provide you with information. Your interest is in massive import and sales. You need to decide if you want to sell brand name or generic. If brand name items begin contacting these companies to discuss the possibility of becoming a reseller in your country and to determine the realistic profit margins. If generic, you have a challenge ahead and a lot of research to do. You will have to research available sellers in the orient, buy only 1 or 2 items per seller and then test to see if they deliver true capacity. If you chose this option be careful as under some id’s the offering are mixed – true capacity and also fake capacity. One of the most important factors that can help you is price.

    You may wish to write to famous chip manufactures such as samsung and hynix and ask them what the realistic prices are for flash drive chips. Tell them your interest in selling locally and mention that you wish to avoid being caught in the black market for fake chips. You could ask them if they recommend any Fab’s in China with whom you might do business – direct. You expressed an interest in very high volume 3,000 to 5,000 unites etc per month.

    In setting up a new product line for sale locally, there is effort and research involved. Part of doing business. We have our hands full just trying to help and educate people who have become victims of these fakes. We are not merchants or sellers of this technology.

    Perhaps resellers who might read at our site, will leave advice or comments to assist you.

    To Resellers

    Do you know of safe suppliers in China for Anton? Do you have any recommendations for him?

  68. Jim said

    I bought 6 mp players on ebay, all from hong kong sellers and not one of them has arrived!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  69. KittyFireFlash said

    To Jim

    Depending on when you purchased, please race to file disputes with PayPal. Make sure you do this before your time runs out and do not bother contacting sellers or you might lose out.

    If items are not arriving from Hong Kong, Grin, thank your lucky stars. SOSFakeFlash is not in a position to say more, just be grateful that you were spared!

    To Everyone

    Do not expect us to answer any questions on why MP Players or Memory Cards or usb flash drives are not showing up at your door. Just sigh with relief, make sure that you file your claim with paypal in the 45 day window and live a fake flash free life!

    Skip buying these items on ebay. Save up to buy genuine items locally from retail stores and please… stop looking for unreasonable prices! If you want it all for nothing, that is what you can expect to receive. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but the recent data review indicates if you expect a super bargain on ebay – you WILL BECOME A FAKE FLASH VICTIM!

    Don’t moan about not receiving your fake. Just file a claim and leave appropriate negative feedback and be grateful that “something” tried to protect you from harm!

  70. Ora said

    When I put my ebay name ora9634 in Google I see you have a negative notice on me. I didn’t know these 8gb drives had only 1gb and I removed them from my listings as soon as I tested them with h2testw-1. How can I get this negative notice removed from google? I have already lost $1500.00 on these bad drives. I had no idea they were defective.

  71. kittyfireflash said

    To Ora

    A request for further investigation has been sent regarding your id ora9634. About http://sosfakeflash.wordpress.com/report-a-fake/#comment-183 have you reviewed the details on this and the timeline?

  72. C Gueths said

    Ora Waterford (ebay seller Ora9634) finally did admit that he received my original flash drive back & proceeded to send me a replacement which (not surprisingly) didn’t have 8gb capacity on it either. I asked the seller and even took the time to tell him how to test the drive himself but he kept insisting that he had tested it and it was fine. I finally gave up and hoped that my complaint here would prevent others from getting ripped off. I still have the replacement drive in the original package. Do you suppose he will give me my money back for it now?

  73. Rebecca said

    I wrote the Bright Hub article on fake 128gb drives mentioned in post # 65, Is There Really a 128GB USB Flash Drive Out There? http://www.brighthub.com/computing/hardware/articles/33110.aspx.There are pictures in the Bright Hub article of the 128GB fake drive if anyone needs to refer to them, as well as the pictures of the repackaged fake 64GB drive.

    I also sent all information on the fake 128GB drive I found to Amazon Customer Service, and they have removed the faked 128GB drive sold on Amazon Marketplace from the Amazon site.
    Information from SOSFAKEFLASH.com was used as one of the sources required by Amazon to have material removed.

    SOSFAKEFLASH.com was very useful for my research for the article.

  74. fightflashfraud said

    Thanks for your comment Rebecca – we thought your article was absolutely great, so clear and to the point. We would have written you a thank you note but we couldn’t see an email address for you anywhere.

  75. Rebecca said

    Thanks- You can click on any writer’s name by their article, and it will take you to a page where you can send a message to them. I’m glad the article is useful- it has gotten quite a lot of views. I think this site is great. It is where I learned the information about how to test suspect drives, and also the extent of the problem on eBay. I started doing research for an article on what is the biggest USB flash available, and found a lot about fakes. I thought it was well worth doing as an informative article before I started the other article. :)

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